#4 Succes coach Stanley Doney

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coaches and outers life lives 34
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inspirations
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let’s play ball
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if you dream it then you can go and do
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it well I I’m not a total believer of
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that like if I believe that I want to be
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heavyweight boxing champ for the world
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I’m pretty sure I’d get knocked out my
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first fight I try but uh there’s some
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things that you can do
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um if you dream and believe it was just
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building something or making something
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then you can go and study to do a lot of
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those things if it requires some
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extraordinary athletic Talent then maybe
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your dreams have to be curbed a bit but
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that’s why you have coaches and family
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and friends it’s like uh you’ve got that
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show Netherlands Got Talent right yeah
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yeah when you see those terrible singers
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that go up surely you have friends that
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can tell you do not audition for this
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you are a terrible singer I know you
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have dreams to become the next I don’t
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know the famous Dutch singers are but
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you know you have good friends that tell
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you no you’re not a very good singer
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finds another passion it’s the same way
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but if it’s something that you can do
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it’s like yeah don’t talk about it man
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just go and do it
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uh we have another question from
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right
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even as a coach
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um I knew that I wanted to have a good
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four-year program yeah
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um we can really teach you stuff and in
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the first year and and second year and
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and putting in the hard work and come
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the third and fourth year you want to
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start filling up the trophy cabinet yeah
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so um so we know a lot about the game
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and we’ve seen the past future prison uh
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we’ve seen great players of softball but
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we also
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I want to make it a little bit your own
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and and change it and and make it grow
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and you know have every little kid in
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the Netherlands instead of picking up a
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hockey stick picking up a softball bat
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you know uh that that’s the dream really
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um so you’re watching Women’s College
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World Softball now on TV and how big
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that’s getting and yeah for me it’s a
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thoughtful crazy person I’d love to see
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it in the Olympics on television
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um you know that that that’s the dream
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all right that’s cool maybe continue
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with the story you just told us that’s
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exactly uh what you were many were
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standing up to try to put your mark on
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the game try to get it more exciting you
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can try to get more people to play and
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a little bit like like evolve the game
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of softball like you said you get a lot
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of competition from other sports coming
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up what can we do as a parent as a coach
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as a as a neighbor I’m just saying
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um to lift up the sports how do we get
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it back up you have to make it exciting
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yeah one thing you got to realize is
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that you are competing against other
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sports and there’s new sports coming in
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I had one of my players she used to play
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corpse ball like knowing you what coff
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ball was 20 years ago but it’s huge now
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like it’s similar to netball in New
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Zealand but the thing is people are
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inventing new sports
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um Ultimate Frisbee this there’s just so
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many different sports going out of there
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that you’ve got to adapt you’ve got to
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adapt and I used to coach in Great
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Britain for many many years and we’d go
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to
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these Expos at schools and there’d be
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four or five different sports there and
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I’d be there representing softball and I
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fully respect all the other sports but
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my job that day was to have these kids
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go away just sell it to still to sit
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there and go listen I want them to think
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softball was the coolest sport that I
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did today out of War four five so that
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that’s again competition coming from
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within me means nothing I don’t get a
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medal out of it or anything like that
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that’s just something that’s internally
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driven to me to say I’m going to out to
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these other sports today and the funny
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thing is I know that none of these kids
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were going to be playing because there’s
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not a club in their area that was
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actually some bad planning on
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um all right well there’s no point us
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going to these schools because there’s
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not a club nearby there’s no coach
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nearby or they had a club nearby but the
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coach that ran the club was not uh
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engaging or they’re going to be on a
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downer because they’ve just had an
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awesome session for me going oh my God
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the Sport’s awesome and then I know
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they’re going to that coach who is not
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very engaging and then the kids are just
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gonna go well this isn’t as fun what it
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was at school yeah which is awesome you
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know but I was aware of all those little
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things when I was doing that
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um but yeah it’s one of the things that
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I try and pride myself on is to make
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sure that it doesn’t matter what age you
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are whether I’m doing 11 year old school
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kid that are doing it for the first time
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or if I’m coaching national team players
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that have been playing for their
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national team for the last 20 years my
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job is to uh a make sure they’re having
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a good time and B make sure that they’re
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continuously learning but the funny
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thing that they don’t realize is that I
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also learn from them you never stop
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learning people think that I have all
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the answers it’s like I have most of
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them I don’t have all of them but guess
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what the ones that I don’t know I have
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lots of friends and I’ll go and ask
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those friends I don’t know everything
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about pitching but guess what Manny and
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I are good friends man he’s been a
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pitcher for many many years so if I’ve
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got anything to ask hey Manny go and
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answer this question yeah yeah don’t
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take me wrong I’ll get in there and
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pitch for a team well you’ve seen me do
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it this year yeah yeah the the results
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are sometimes is what they want to be
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but Manny’s a proper pitcher I’m just a
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part-time pitcher that would get in
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there and do it yeah just throw strikes
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yeah that’s that’s what I told them I
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was like I could throw strikes I could
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also catch as well I have no problem
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getting in there and uh playing catcher
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but I’m not a proper catcher right it’s
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just one of those ones where if you can
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do it just go and do it evolve in the
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game if there’s someone better you don’t
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do it yeah for sure yeah don’t talk
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about it just do it there’s again there
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good point then again in the four year
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program I find that very exciting
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interesting as you will know I do the
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girls on the 12th about Maria we are in
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the third year now
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so I have my vision on four years
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um do you mind explaining to us and the
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young listeners and coaches to be at
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home what is the four year program what
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was your vision yes so well I’m done now
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so I’ve got no yes
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but you’ve executed your vision yeah so
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in 2015 when I first came here uh you’ve
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got a plan like everything you’re doing
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is you’re planning but it’s like all
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right what are your goals and they
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always talk about the smart goals and
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make it measurable stuff like that yeah
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the one that the one that I got wrong
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and I got this from a New Zealand guy I
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went on this course and this guy’s a
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genius he’s an absolute his name’s David
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Neath shout out Dave need I hope shout
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out we’ll take you on Facebook as well
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follow that guy he is a legend and I
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remember him saying in the smart goals
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the ah do you remember what the r stands
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for nope realistic oh yeah yeah he’s the
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one that come and said actually that’s
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wrong and I’m like what and he’s like no
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you got to put a u n in front of it I’m
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like you in unrealistic and he’s like
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yeah he’s like you got to reach for the
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stars he’s like you’ve got to sit there
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and just you know go crazy with your
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dream well sort of like you go back to
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the dreams and whatnot well not being
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heavyweight champion of the world in
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boxing because I’ll get knocked out but
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you know anything that you think you can
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achieve Like A Champion yeah so it sort
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of came around uh well hold on I’m
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backtracking here uh so for this year my
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unrealistic goal was like hey let’s put
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the men’s team together let’s enter
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everything let’s try and win the Premier
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Cup uh the men’s and the women’s
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no one’s ever done it before sounds
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unrealistic let’s have a crack at it
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yeah yeah so you know that’s where the
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idea idea came from last year uh but in
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terms of the four-year plan you can also
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trade that for succession planning
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so each year you’re trying to work out
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how we’re going to do it but then you’re
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also planning for you not being there or
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certain players not being there so as
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long as I’m assuming that you’ve already
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had the conversations with the parents
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and the kids to say hey you’re going to
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be at albemaria or whatever your Club is
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at Olympia are you going to be here for
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the next three four years because if you
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plan on being there yeah then you know
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what you got to work with and then you
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know what pace you need to go but if
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you’ve only got them for one year and
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you want to try and teach them then you
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may end up rushing yourself uh trying to
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teach them everything but sometimes when
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you try and teach them everything you
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end up learning nothing because you’re
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rushing yourself yeah but if you know
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that you got them for four years you’ve
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got them for six months times uh you
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know four weeks you know times two
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sessions you got them for like 100
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sessions a year you My Philosophy you
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teach one skill one drill yeah and one
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rule per session that’s a hundred skills
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100 drills and 100 rules they learn in
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the game you times that by two three
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four years that’s a lot yeah that’s a
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hell of a lot about the game and then
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that way you can just chip away at it
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you can’t give them everything at once
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because your learning can only handle so
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much and when you’re a kid you don’t
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want to be spoken to for too long you
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just want to keep playing but you’ve got
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to somehow
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I don’t like this word but it’s sort of
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what you do you manipulate them you
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manipulate them into how they learn and
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say all right well this is the rule and
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then you go and train the rule and some
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a lot of it’s just basic stuff like you
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know bunting where you go on a bunt and
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uh you know who’s moving where and how
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and why and uh yeah but the main thing
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is is that you have that plan and the
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most important part of your four-year
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plan which is also known as succession
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planning uh is being able to change it
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that’s the biggest thing I learned from
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Australian softball uh not not when I
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was younger but later is if when you’re
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doing something and it’s not working be
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willing to change it and that’s where a
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lot of the skill comes because that’s
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where you’ve got to feel it you’ve got
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to well you can do it by asking the hard
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questions directly but sometimes you
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don’t get the honest answers back but
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you need to be able to feel it whether a
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kid’s feeling it or whether a parent’s
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feeling it and that’s another big lesson
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I learned is you’ve got to make sure
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that you speak not just to the kids but
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to the parents as well all right because
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sometimes the kids are the parents don’t
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even match up with what they want it’s
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very weird but I’ve got some interesting
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Tales I got examples about a lot yeah
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but where’s your training uh on the 12th
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and that’s a different ball game with
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grown-ups but it’s not a different ball
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game with grown-ups or no it is it is
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but the thing with a grown-up the
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grown-up can tell you yeah an 11 12 year
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old but you still have to deal with the
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parents yeah I’ll give you my best
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example that I had and this is what set
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me on my path
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forever it was in Denmark I was coaching
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pretty much every team at glad saxa this
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was the year before many got there I
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think and then we had ambition to be in
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the first Division and then I was
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coaching the under-12s and this kid who
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was terrible
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couldn’t catch a fly ball used to cry
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every time they got out and at the end
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of the year the mum came up and thanked
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me and you know they give you bottles of
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wine or a six pack of beer or something
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as a thank you and I remember going to
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the mother saying oh yeah your son was
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scared of the ball at the beginning of
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the year and
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you know now they can catch half the
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balls and you know they’re coming along
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and Leaps and Bounds and they’re good
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and her face just re-quiled and just
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looked at me strange and I thought oh
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okay what have I missed here and then
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she said to me says like oh no no no at
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the beginning of the year he was one of
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the worst at English in his class now
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he’s one of the best
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so I’m like
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are you kidding me she only brought her
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son to the training sessions
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because I only spoke English I couldn’t
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speak Danish so she wanted her son to be
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around someone that was constantly
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forcing her son to understand English
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and here I am working my tail off to try
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and get this kid better at softball and
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had some speed the kid had speed was
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just scared at the ball and you know it
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wasn’t that great at hitting and I used
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to cry every single time they got out at
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first base he used to run over to mum
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and here I am going oh yep and the mum
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didn’t really care about how good he got
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at softball was just like yeah no he’s
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caught up to the rest of the class in
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English because like the Dutch they’re
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very good at English at a young age over
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there and they start learning but he was
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behind uh that’s a cool story I was like
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what so it made me realize and I was
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only in my mid-20s at that stage going
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it didn’t matter how much I thought I
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was influencing or doing the right thing
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it’s like hold on I need to speak to all
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the parents here and say why why is your
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kid here are they here to learn softball
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is it just a crash class so you can have
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two hours off and have some alone time
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you know and it’s like wow you’re
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surprised about the reasons why parents
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bring their kids up you know sometimes
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the kids don’t like one of the other
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reasons was because it was the cheapest
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sport oh right yeah compared to handball
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and football and the other main sports
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they have yeah they like going oh no
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this is the cheapest sport for my kid to
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do and you’re like oh it’s like getting
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socializing and learning at the same
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time yeah it’s crazy some of the reasons
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why the parents are bringing their kids
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to play your sport
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yeah so you need to understand why the
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kid is on your team ask both by talking
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to their parents not and not together
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yeah make sure it’s separate you don’t
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ask them in front of mum and dad no you
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know because sometimes you’re like do
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you actually like the sport and they’re
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like not really
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like okay then that’s your job to get
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them to love the sport yeah yeah because
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once you’ve got the skills the skills
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stay forever you know even if you only
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played for four years you know to learn
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how to catch a throw ball coming at your
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face at speed it’s not easy ought to
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hurt you know and then you played 15
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years later you could tell someone
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that’s had proper training just the way
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they catch and throw a ball you know I
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haven’t played for 20 years boom you’re
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like oh yeah that’s awesome because I
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have an example on that I have like a
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father of a colleague of mine I think
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he’s beginning 50. he’s he is starting
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baseball with augmaria and he haven’t
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touched the ball for 20 years
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that guy is hammering
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every good balls in a batting case and
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that is so cool when you see him catch
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and throw it’s a little bit stiff but
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still bang and then you go and ask him
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it’s like oh yeah I played her years ago
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two seasons there’s a pitcher in the
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1978 hoof class for hclv or something
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like that hey you’re like oh yeah okay
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so you’ll never forget it’s impressive
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to watch yeah and and then he has to ice
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his shoulder for the next three days
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we’re woken up some muscles we probably
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shouldn’t have so another question but
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so uh first of all you are a player of
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course but then again you you decided to
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be a coach so so what did you decide to
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be a coach I didn’t really decide to be
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a coach
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that’s where people don’t realize that I
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actually gave the game of softball away
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because I got softballed out as what
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happens and I used to play cricket when
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I was younger too so when I was 11 years
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old I gave away softball played Cricket
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for two years I made representative
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teams in uh Sydney Yeah but I
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with the
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base with the softball baseball
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upbringing it doesn’t help your cricket
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game helps with a couple of shots but
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not the full range of shots so I went
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back and forth between the two and then
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when I went to Denmark I was only going
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over there as a player I knew I was
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playing for a second division team but I
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didn’t care I was just going to live
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having an excuse to go and see a country
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go and live with some locals uh I’d
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given away the game again at that point
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I’d played another couple of years of
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cricket back in New Zealand and when I
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got there after one week they looked at
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each other and went uh you’re a little
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bit too good for second for this league
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and I’m like yeah but I don’t I’m not
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here you’re the club there exactly
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here’s a fun fact for you I actually
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emailed I don’t remember which club it
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was but I emailed a Dutch Club as well
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but the Dutch Club says oh you must be
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here next week because the season starts
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next week oh yeah and then I said no no
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I’m not coming over for a month and
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they’re like oh we’re not interested
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then so I was like okay cool so I says
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listen I can’t be over a month is that
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okay and the Danish Club said yeah
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that’s fine just come when you can we’ll
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take you know we’ll take it any help we
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can get so I actually was it was one of
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those another sliding doors moment I
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could actually came have come here
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instead but uh yeah I ended up going
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over there and then after a week they
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sort of says oh listen you’re uh one of
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our best players were you coaches and
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I’m like uh I only just came here to
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play and then I sort of seen what they
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did for training I’m like oh yeah okay
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I’ll just and because obviously my dad
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was a coach I just had to go in my head
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and go all right I’ll just do what a dad
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used to do and then I just used to
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do what he did and put in a bit of my
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own flavor in there and then I ended up
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helping out the women’s team and then we
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put in some Juniors and ran a one of
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these summer activity things and then
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all the kids signed up and the club just
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started yeah yeah one of those sort of
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things and then I sort of thought about
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it went oh we’ve got three decent
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players here and the women’s team’s not
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too bad but they just didn’t have
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coaching and uh
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the funny thing was what many was
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talking about before is uh they word got
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round and the Ella Road penguins with
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Martin Holmberg and Sam Woodcock and
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Steve McFarlane they came up to me and
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says hey will you come and Coach our
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team next year and that’s the part that
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really started pulling my heartstrings
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because they had a proper legit team
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like they they were good yeah and I was
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kind of that’s that was the first part
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that confused me because I was like hold
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on I’m only in my mid-20s here
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I’ve never really coached before but
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word got around that you know I must
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have known what I was doing or something
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because I was just winging it at that at
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that stage you had some talents yeah and
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uh but I still sort of all set on
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playing but I’m also a very loyal person
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and glad sack’s a softball Club you know
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took me in they treated me right uh and
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then I thought well you know what how
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about I do this the other way I’m gonna
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take this team we’re gonna go in the
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first Division and play against the
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Penguins but we were nowhere near as
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good as them so I actually caught that’s
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when I called my father and my dad had
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just sort of recently retired sort of
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and uh I said listen what are you doing
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next summer there’s this really good
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00:17:32,580 –> 00:17:34,500
team over here uh they’re looking for a
513
00:17:34,500 –> 00:17:37,500
coach I says they’ve asked me but I’d
514
00:17:37,500 –> 00:17:39,000
prefer to stay at glad sex and I said
515
00:17:39,000 –> 00:17:40,440
well how about you do this you come and
516
00:17:40,440 –> 00:17:43,140
play for my team in the first division
517
00:17:43,140 –> 00:17:45,360
uh because we needed extra players and
518
00:17:45,360 –> 00:17:47,520
he was still young enough to help the
519
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team out uh and he brought over my
520
00:17:51,059 –> 00:17:53,700
younger brother Zach as well
521
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and then he would go and Coach penguins
522
00:17:56,460 –> 00:17:58,799
an odd coach glad saxer we only won like
523
00:17:58,799 –> 00:18:02,039
three games all season and Penguins I
524
00:18:02,039 –> 00:18:03,840
think made the their equivalent of the
525
00:18:03,840 –> 00:18:05,760
Holland series final and lost it the
526
00:18:05,760 –> 00:18:06,900
funny thing that happened though and
527
00:18:06,900 –> 00:18:09,120
they only bet that annoyed me it wasn’t
528
00:18:09,120 –> 00:18:10,740
really an annoyance but they won the
529
00:18:10,740 –> 00:18:12,000
European Cup
530
00:18:12,000 –> 00:18:13,860
that was the one that was at EHS
531
00:18:13,860 –> 00:18:15,660
Bulldogs I think oh yeah so he won the
532
00:18:15,660 –> 00:18:17,280
cup but they all went out and partied
533
00:18:17,280 –> 00:18:19,260
left the cup behind and remember when
534
00:18:19,260 –> 00:18:20,940
the clubhouse burnt down yeah yeah
535
00:18:20,940 –> 00:18:22,740
unfortunately they left the trophy in
536
00:18:22,740 –> 00:18:23,960
the clubhouse
537
00:18:23,960 –> 00:18:27,080
had a trophies lost forever
538
00:18:27,080 –> 00:18:30,179
but uh yeah he uh basically went one for
539
00:18:30,179 –> 00:18:32,220
one went to one European Cup and won one
540
00:18:32,220 –> 00:18:33,380
and
541
00:18:33,380 –> 00:18:36,720
uh yeah but I stayed loyal to my club
542
00:18:36,720 –> 00:18:39,720
and won hardly any games but you know
543
00:18:39,720 –> 00:18:41,460
what I still have no regrets in that
544
00:18:41,460 –> 00:18:43,260
department because I love glad Saxon
545
00:18:43,260 –> 00:18:44,940
softball Club I’ve always been a one
546
00:18:44,940 –> 00:18:46,559
club man no matter what country I went
547
00:18:46,559 –> 00:18:49,559
to uh which is very rare I guess these
548
00:18:49,559 –> 00:18:51,299
days I have no qualms of other people
549
00:18:51,299 –> 00:18:52,980
doing it it’s each to their own but it’s
550
00:18:52,980 –> 00:18:54,299
just something I like to try and pride
551
00:18:54,299 –> 00:18:56,039
myself for so why is that
552
00:18:56,039 –> 00:18:57,900
uh to Karma
553
00:18:57,900 –> 00:19:00,539
it’s just something that’s I don’t my
554
00:19:00,539 –> 00:19:02,220
dad hasn’t instilled it in me oh maybe
555
00:19:02,220 –> 00:19:04,140
he has I I don’t really know the reason
556
00:19:04,140 –> 00:19:06,059
why I’ve just always been a loyal person
557
00:19:06,059 –> 00:19:09,059
uh I think that loyalty is accomplished
558
00:19:09,059 –> 00:19:11,340
by and seeking for one Club
559
00:19:11,340 –> 00:19:14,880
if they treat me right then if I have no
560
00:19:14,880 –> 00:19:16,799
reason to go anywhere else all right
561
00:19:16,799 –> 00:19:19,380
then I won’t I’d rather sit there and go
562
00:19:19,380 –> 00:19:21,120
through the tough times or try and build
563
00:19:21,120 –> 00:19:24,440
something or it’s just a personal
564
00:19:24,440 –> 00:19:26,700
it’s just something personal Within
565
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Myself that I’ve always wanted to do I
566
00:19:28,440 –> 00:19:29,160
have
567
00:19:29,160 –> 00:19:31,980
no idea why maybe yes maybe because it’s
568
00:19:31,980 –> 00:19:35,160
it’s keeping it simple as well not
569
00:19:35,160 –> 00:19:37,679
difficult like yeah well if there wasn’t
570
00:19:37,679 –> 00:19:39,179
if there was a time for me to do it it
571
00:19:39,179 –> 00:19:41,640
would have been to go to penguins and uh
572
00:19:41,640 –> 00:19:42,960
well maybe I wouldn’t have won it with
573
00:19:42,960 –> 00:19:44,039
them maybe I would have made a coaching
574
00:19:44,039 –> 00:19:46,500
mistake being so young uh if I had a
575
00:19:46,500 –> 00:19:49,020
trans you never know you know so it’s
576
00:19:49,020 –> 00:19:51,720
one of those things that didn’t happen
577
00:19:51,720 –> 00:19:54,000
stable glad sector I think it’s it’s
578
00:19:54,000 –> 00:19:56,580
awesome because what I can tell right
579
00:19:56,580 –> 00:19:59,220
now at a lot of clubs there’s a lot of
580
00:19:59,220 –> 00:20:01,620
switches going out because they’re all
581
00:20:01,620 –> 00:20:04,679
like in the same group of people and uh
582
00:20:04,679 –> 00:20:05,940
well you played there for four years you
583
00:20:05,940 –> 00:20:07,860
play there it doesn’t matter you go to
584
00:20:07,860 –> 00:20:09,000
the other team
585
00:20:09,000 –> 00:20:12,419
I think we miss real loyal people and
586
00:20:12,419 –> 00:20:15,299
loyal teams we had a couple guests
587
00:20:15,299 –> 00:20:17,340
before you on the podcast
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00:20:17,340 –> 00:20:21,240
on the coachball podcast and um one of
589
00:20:21,240 –> 00:20:24,480
the guys was uh Peter Peter kulumi and
590
00:20:24,480 –> 00:20:27,000
he was an old school coach from from
591
00:20:27,000 –> 00:20:28,799
Harlem as well and he did a lot of
592
00:20:28,799 –> 00:20:30,179
training and he started off young as
593
00:20:30,179 –> 00:20:33,299
well and he told us that he really miss
594
00:20:33,299 –> 00:20:36,900
uh teams on the field right now that are
595
00:20:36,900 –> 00:20:40,020
built on friendship you know guys who
596
00:20:40,020 –> 00:20:42,059
are playing like 10 years together 12
597
00:20:42,059 –> 00:20:44,100
years together and they are not the best
598
00:20:44,100 –> 00:20:47,580
at at the sport but they are the best
599
00:20:47,580 –> 00:20:50,520
team and teams win games you know and
600
00:20:50,520 –> 00:20:52,620
that’s that’s what I I kind of missed in
601
00:20:52,620 –> 00:20:54,360
the last couple of years playing in the
602
00:20:54,360 –> 00:20:56,840
hoofclass everybody was a little bit
603
00:20:56,840 –> 00:21:00,000
occupied by winning a trophy and I was
604
00:21:00,000 –> 00:21:02,520
just out trying to play ball have fun
605
00:21:02,520 –> 00:21:05,100
with the team you know and I I can see
606
00:21:05,100 –> 00:21:07,799
that in you as well yeah and I guess
607
00:21:07,799 –> 00:21:10,200
that’s why I was a little bit sad after
608
00:21:10,200 –> 00:21:12,480
Holland Series this year because
609
00:21:12,480 –> 00:21:14,820
there was only three original members of
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00:21:14,820 –> 00:21:16,919
the team when I first came here in 2015
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Muriel of logos Brenda beers and Rachel
612
00:21:19,740 –> 00:21:22,860
Von vane uh Rachel and Mariela are
613
00:21:22,860 –> 00:21:25,440
finishing okay eight years service for
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00:21:25,440 –> 00:21:26,640
your sporting career that’s a long time
615
00:21:26,640 –> 00:21:29,340
eight years service like you know and
616
00:21:29,340 –> 00:21:31,919
and Brenda beers continues so Brenda’s
617
00:21:31,919 –> 00:21:33,600
in her ninth year at the club so we talk
618
00:21:33,600 –> 00:21:35,100
about friends that are staying together
619
00:21:35,100 –> 00:21:38,640
loyal yeah loyal and uh that’s that’s
620
00:21:38,640 –> 00:21:40,140
the part that pulls up my heartstrings
621
00:21:40,140 –> 00:21:41,880
because I just love seeing them stay at
622
00:21:41,880 –> 00:21:44,159
the club for so long it’ll be quite
623
00:21:44,159 –> 00:21:45,539
funny actually I have a funny story
624
00:21:45,539 –> 00:21:47,400
because Brenda is from ogmari as well
625
00:21:47,400 –> 00:21:50,400
yes and uh Jesse as well and when they
626
00:21:50,400 –> 00:21:53,039
were like uh I think at the beginning of
627
00:21:53,039 –> 00:21:55,440
the ladies with Maria so they probably
628
00:21:55,440 –> 00:21:57,720
were like 17 18 19 years old some of
629
00:21:57,720 –> 00:21:59,940
that I’ve did the pitching training with
630
00:21:59,940 –> 00:22:01,980
her with the girls with Jesse Yeah with
631
00:22:01,980 –> 00:22:04,080
Jesse and she was Strong’s mom she can
632
00:22:04,080 –> 00:22:05,760
throw bullets man at that time I was
633
00:22:05,760 –> 00:22:07,799
like holy [ __ ] yeah I don’t want to say
634
00:22:07,799 –> 00:22:09,120
but I think they’re too harder than I
635
00:22:09,120 –> 00:22:11,480
did at the point but
636
00:22:11,480 –> 00:22:13,980
Brenda was catching awesome you could
637
00:22:13,980 –> 00:22:16,620
see the talent already oh look it was so
638
00:22:16,620 –> 00:22:19,200
cool that actually when the training was
639
00:22:19,200 –> 00:22:21,299
over I could actually ask Brandon
640
00:22:21,299 –> 00:22:23,760
Abraham gonna throw a couple of balls on
641
00:22:23,760 –> 00:22:25,440
you can I throw a couple pictures and
642
00:22:25,440 –> 00:22:27,539
she was like yeah sure listen that’s how
643
00:22:27,539 –> 00:22:28,679
they get better though as well having
644
00:22:28,679 –> 00:22:30,059
the likes of yourself pitching to them
645
00:22:30,059 –> 00:22:31,799
you know getting used to just having 60
646
00:22:31,799 –> 00:22:33,780
65 70 miles per hour throwing
647
00:22:33,780 –> 00:22:35,760
consistently uh but where’s she from
648
00:22:35,760 –> 00:22:37,620
Brenda egg Bond on C or something like
649
00:22:37,620 –> 00:22:39,000
that somewhere on the west coast out
650
00:22:39,000 –> 00:22:40,919
there but we got lucky when [ __ ] her and
651
00:22:40,919 –> 00:22:42,539
Rachel transferred and they transferred
652
00:22:42,539 –> 00:22:44,220
late and I think that was through Sandra
653
00:22:44,220 –> 00:22:47,760
hovener yeah so also a great coach yeah
654
00:22:47,760 –> 00:22:49,919
so well she assistant coach with me uh
655
00:22:49,919 –> 00:22:52,860
at one season two seasons and obviously
656
00:22:52,860 –> 00:22:55,559
we’re talking about Sandra yeah and I’m
657
00:22:55,559 –> 00:22:56,880
surprised you want to get her on this
658
00:22:56,880 –> 00:23:00,140
podcast yeah we’re trying yeah
659
00:23:04,580 –> 00:23:07,559
on the 12th and also Pirates I guess all
660
00:23:07,559 –> 00:23:10,440
right and uh shout out to Sandra well I
661
00:23:10,440 –> 00:23:11,940
did her winter school I did her winter
662
00:23:11,940 –> 00:23:13,200
school because of her because she
663
00:23:13,200 –> 00:23:14,880
assistant coached here and like I said
664
00:23:14,880 –> 00:23:16,860
I’m loyal so if you help me I’m going to
665
00:23:16,860 –> 00:23:18,000
help you I’m like well what are you
666
00:23:18,000 –> 00:23:19,320
doing she’s like oh I’m staying here
667
00:23:19,320 –> 00:23:21,360
this winter so I went and helped there
668
00:23:21,360 –> 00:23:23,159
and yeah there’s lots of talent yeah
669
00:23:23,159 –> 00:23:24,960
here at hogavard or whatever it’s called
670
00:23:24,960 –> 00:23:26,840
up there yeah
671
00:23:26,840 –> 00:23:30,059
I played the herons yeah the black and
672
00:23:30,059 –> 00:23:31,860
yellow team yeah yeah I mean they’re a
673
00:23:31,860 –> 00:23:33,299
competition and they’re good they’re
674
00:23:33,299 –> 00:23:34,919
really good and it starts off because
675
00:23:34,919 –> 00:23:36,900
then we go to a little bit of coaching
676
00:23:36,900 –> 00:23:39,120
already because they’re on the 12th and
677
00:23:39,120 –> 00:23:42,000
they are their team is a season further
678
00:23:42,000 –> 00:23:46,440
away than my team and so after like like
679
00:23:46,440 –> 00:23:48,360
last year we played them and we could
680
00:23:48,360 –> 00:23:50,039
actually tell that we were gonna beat
681
00:23:50,039 –> 00:23:52,020
them they were too good but then again
682
00:23:52,020 –> 00:23:54,299
talking about a friendship steamer you
683
00:23:54,299 –> 00:23:55,860
can have all the the best players in the
684
00:23:55,860 –> 00:23:57,480
world but if you have like a team of
685
00:23:57,480 –> 00:23:59,700
girls who willing to go the actual mail
686
00:23:59,700 –> 00:24:03,000
Witcher we caught up and we had these
687
00:24:03,000 –> 00:24:04,919
close games and then in the end we
688
00:24:04,919 –> 00:24:06,900
actually tied a game and we we
689
00:24:06,900 –> 00:24:09,480
accelerated like a victory you know and
690
00:24:09,480 –> 00:24:11,039
you can tell the difference because
691
00:24:11,039 –> 00:24:14,700
Sandra is really into the basics uh the
692
00:24:14,700 –> 00:24:16,799
perfect Basics uh pass ball I’ll just
693
00:24:16,799 –> 00:24:19,740
take your extra bass get off the base
694
00:24:19,740 –> 00:24:21,480
after a pitch
695
00:24:21,480 –> 00:24:23,100
um Fly ball look where you where you’re
696
00:24:23,100 –> 00:24:24,659
gonna stand you’re gonna go all the way
697
00:24:24,659 –> 00:24:26,340
okay but you’re gonna stay at your base
698
00:24:26,340 –> 00:24:28,559
and she’s so good at that yeah so I
699
00:24:28,559 –> 00:24:30,120
never got to see Sandra play but I heard
700
00:24:30,120 –> 00:24:32,100
so many good things so then I found out
701
00:24:32,100 –> 00:24:34,080
that it was a lie that I actually did
702
00:24:34,080 –> 00:24:35,580
get to see her play
703
00:24:35,580 –> 00:24:38,039
when I first moved to New Zealand in
704
00:24:38,039 –> 00:24:41,460
ninety four I think it was uh the Dutch
705
00:24:41,460 –> 00:24:43,320
women’s team the national team Tour New
706
00:24:43,320 –> 00:24:44,400
Zealand
707
00:24:44,400 –> 00:24:46,080
she was in that team they played it by
708
00:24:46,080 –> 00:24:48,120
fields at North Harbor Stadium she would
709
00:24:48,120 –> 00:24:50,340
have been young uh but I got one of the
710
00:24:50,340 –> 00:24:52,440
balls from that game you know so I was
711
00:24:52,440 –> 00:24:54,059
Netherlands vs North Harbor I think it
712
00:24:54,059 –> 00:24:55,440
was but we had Gina Weber I think
713
00:24:55,440 –> 00:24:56,820
playing for North Harbor at that time
714
00:24:56,820 –> 00:24:59,700
but uh yeah so when she came to coach at
715
00:24:59,700 –> 00:25:00,960
Olympian we just you know you just
716
00:25:00,960 –> 00:25:02,280
checked away and she’s like you know
717
00:25:02,280 –> 00:25:03,419
I’ve been to New Zealand like oh what
718
00:25:03,419 –> 00:25:04,799
year I was like oh and then she says oh
719
00:25:04,799 –> 00:25:06,360
we talked here I was like I was at that
720
00:25:06,360 –> 00:25:08,159
game and she’s like no way I was like
721
00:25:08,159 –> 00:25:10,919
yeah so yeah it’s a small world it’s one
722
00:25:10,919 –> 00:25:12,059
of those things where it’s a small cool
723
00:25:12,059 –> 00:25:15,320
okay uh let’s uh talk about
724
00:25:15,320 –> 00:25:18,780
so uh maybe it’s an idea because we just
725
00:25:18,780 –> 00:25:21,000
talked about Jesse that we are going to
726
00:25:21,000 –> 00:25:23,460
bring her in yeah we have her here
727
00:25:23,460 –> 00:25:25,380
all the trick plays you have in your
728
00:25:25,380 –> 00:25:27,659
mind which one is your favorite and when
729
00:25:27,659 –> 00:25:30,779
and how were you able to use it cheers
730
00:25:30,779 –> 00:25:35,100
okay let me do it uh again again because
731
00:25:35,100 –> 00:25:38,659
it like started halfway there we go
732
00:25:38,659 –> 00:25:41,700
hey Stan thank you for all the coaching
733
00:25:41,700 –> 00:25:43,320
work you did for Olympia the past
734
00:25:43,320 –> 00:25:46,320
Seasons I do have a question for you of
735
00:25:46,320 –> 00:25:47,820
all the trick plays you have in your
736
00:25:47,820 –> 00:25:50,159
mind which one is your favorite and when
737
00:25:50,159 –> 00:25:54,600
and how were you able to use it cheers
738
00:25:54,659 –> 00:25:56,659
that’s a good question
739
00:25:56,659 –> 00:25:58,220
looking forward
740
00:25:58,220 –> 00:25:59,640
[Music]
741
00:25:59,640 –> 00:26:02,580
we have quite a few I try and teach one
742
00:26:02,580 –> 00:26:04,679
or two as a rule each year remember I
743
00:26:04,679 –> 00:26:06,779
was a one skill one drill you know I try
744
00:26:06,779 –> 00:26:10,020
and do that every training session uh
745
00:26:10,020 –> 00:26:11,580
even subconsciously I don’t tell the
746
00:26:11,580 –> 00:26:13,080
girls what we’re doing you just put it
747
00:26:13,080 –> 00:26:15,360
in there and they eventually get it I
748
00:26:15,360 –> 00:26:17,279
didn’t do any this year for the first
749
00:26:17,279 –> 00:26:20,159
time ever I had them uh yeah I wrote
750
00:26:20,159 –> 00:26:22,620
them out but we didn’t do any I think
751
00:26:22,620 –> 00:26:24,299
because we had a couple of young ones
752
00:26:24,299 –> 00:26:27,240
and it does require a lot of work a lot
753
00:26:27,240 –> 00:26:30,179
of brains and some of the I wanted to go
754
00:26:30,179 –> 00:26:31,919
back to Sandra I wanted to concentrate a
755
00:26:31,919 –> 00:26:33,720
bit more on basics for a lot more of the
756
00:26:33,720 –> 00:26:35,600
squad But to answer the question
757
00:26:35,600 –> 00:26:37,620
ironically it was what we were talking
758
00:26:37,620 –> 00:26:40,200
before we went on air yeah the first and
759
00:26:40,200 –> 00:26:42,360
third and and the girls know this one
760
00:26:42,360 –> 00:26:43,440
the one that you were talking to me if
761
00:26:43,440 –> 00:26:45,240
you if you did it to the senior girls
762
00:26:45,240 –> 00:26:46,740
the ones that have been at Olympia a
763
00:26:46,740 –> 00:26:48,419
long time they will laugh if you were
764
00:26:48,419 –> 00:26:49,740
the if you were to coach them on Tuesday
765
00:26:49,740 –> 00:26:50,940
and says all right we’re going to do
766
00:26:50,940 –> 00:26:54,900
this uh Brenda Jesse Mari or Murray’s
767
00:26:54,900 –> 00:26:56,520
finished now Rachel they know they’d
768
00:26:56,520 –> 00:26:58,320
know how to do it what to do because
769
00:26:58,320 –> 00:26:59,340
they’ve already been skilled up
770
00:26:59,340 –> 00:27:01,500
explained explained so when you have
771
00:27:01,500 –> 00:27:02,940
Runners on first and third it was a
772
00:27:02,940 –> 00:27:04,440
men’s play that was done about 20 years
773
00:27:04,440 –> 00:27:06,539
ago any old men’s players will know it I
774
00:27:06,539 –> 00:27:07,620
don’t know if the younger generation
775
00:27:07,620 –> 00:27:10,799
will but uh they used to if if they knew
776
00:27:10,799 –> 00:27:11,880
that they couldn’t be thrown out at two
777
00:27:11,880 –> 00:27:13,679
in a first and third situation Runner or
778
00:27:13,679 –> 00:27:16,260
one stealing two to try and score that
779
00:27:16,260 –> 00:27:17,580
runner on three what they’d get the
780
00:27:17,580 –> 00:27:18,900
runner on one to do is instead of
781
00:27:18,900 –> 00:27:20,400
running to second base they’d just go
782
00:27:20,400 –> 00:27:21,960
out and start running onto the grass
783
00:27:21,960 –> 00:27:24,299
yeah and aim foot towards the center
784
00:27:24,299 –> 00:27:26,640
fielder and if the throw does yeah I’m
785
00:27:26,640 –> 00:27:28,980
looking to use the radiation we didn’t
786
00:27:28,980 –> 00:27:30,059
do this with the men’s team Anthony
787
00:27:30,059 –> 00:27:31,559
Bowman will know it he’ll know this one
788
00:27:31,559 –> 00:27:33,240
all right I explained before uh
789
00:27:33,240 –> 00:27:34,140
broadcast
790
00:27:34,140 –> 00:27:35,520
um when you go out there and you just
791
00:27:35,520 –> 00:27:37,260
run out and sometimes they don’t even
792
00:27:37,260 –> 00:27:39,000
bother trying to get you out at two but
793
00:27:39,000 –> 00:27:41,220
if they do throw the Border two then you
794
00:27:41,220 –> 00:27:43,500
just sit there and look at them and then
795
00:27:43,500 –> 00:27:45,059
because they have to make a play on you
796
00:27:45,059 –> 00:27:46,500
and you have the right to sort of like
797
00:27:46,500 –> 00:27:49,080
stay and sit there but if you do make a
798
00:27:49,080 –> 00:27:50,700
move the rule is that as long as you’re
799
00:27:50,700 –> 00:27:52,080
making an effort to go either to second
800
00:27:52,080 –> 00:27:55,260
base or back to first then that’s it you
801
00:27:55,260 –> 00:27:57,419
have the one meter one yard play you
802
00:27:57,419 –> 00:27:59,700
know to avoid attack but uh unless
803
00:27:59,700 –> 00:28:01,200
there’s a play being made on you you can
804
00:28:01,200 –> 00:28:02,940
run wherever you want you can run all
805
00:28:02,940 –> 00:28:04,440
the way to the right field pole if you
806
00:28:04,440 –> 00:28:05,220
want to
807
00:28:05,220 –> 00:28:06,960
it doesn’t matter you can run wherever
808
00:28:06,960 –> 00:28:08,760
you want in the game of sophomore of
809
00:28:08,760 –> 00:28:10,860
course it’s not advised because a good
810
00:28:10,860 –> 00:28:13,140
team will tag you out but if you’re
811
00:28:13,140 –> 00:28:15,299
playing against even a decent level team
812
00:28:15,299 –> 00:28:16,500
there’s some teams that just don’t want
813
00:28:16,500 –> 00:28:18,120
to mess with your speed have you got two
814
00:28:18,120 –> 00:28:19,559
absolute speedsters where they’re like
815
00:28:19,559 –> 00:28:21,779
no give up the base then that’s it you
816
00:28:21,779 –> 00:28:23,520
put that Runner out there
817
00:28:23,520 –> 00:28:24,900
um we talked about Stephen McFarland
818
00:28:24,900 –> 00:28:26,460
before he he taught the Penguins how to
819
00:28:26,460 –> 00:28:27,659
do it yeah
820
00:28:27,659 –> 00:28:31,559
um and actually Mike glad sex a team was
821
00:28:31,559 –> 00:28:33,299
not quite good enough with our Enfield
822
00:28:33,299 –> 00:28:35,100
to be able to it wasn’t worth trying to
823
00:28:35,100 –> 00:28:36,960
try and combat it a bit of just
824
00:28:36,960 –> 00:28:38,580
concentrating on the next batter
825
00:28:38,580 –> 00:28:40,620
and you could do that you could often do
826
00:28:40,620 –> 00:28:41,820
that if you had a weaker better coming
827
00:28:41,820 –> 00:28:43,200
up and you’re trying to force the play
828
00:28:43,200 –> 00:28:45,539
out in the field but uh yeah you you
829
00:28:45,539 –> 00:28:47,279
train that Runners on one and three uh
830
00:28:47,279 –> 00:28:48,720
the runner on one running out onto the
831
00:28:48,720 –> 00:28:50,279
grass and just hanging out there and if
832
00:28:50,279 –> 00:28:52,080
no place being made then yeah you just
833
00:28:52,080 –> 00:28:53,760
slowly walked a second but if there’s a
834
00:28:53,760 –> 00:28:56,100
crowd there your team’s basically being
835
00:28:56,100 –> 00:28:57,179
punked
836
00:28:57,179 –> 00:28:59,940
it’s a it’s sort of being disrespectful
837
00:28:59,940 –> 00:29:01,980
without being disrespectful saying your
838
00:29:01,980 –> 00:29:04,080
team is not good enough to defend our
839
00:29:04,080 –> 00:29:06,179
running game all right uh yeah but
840
00:29:06,179 –> 00:29:08,460
that’s that one but another one of my
841
00:29:08,460 –> 00:29:10,860
favorites for the juniors yeah for the
842
00:29:10,860 –> 00:29:12,679
under 12s and under 13.
843
00:29:12,679 –> 00:29:15,240
teaching them how to steal home
844
00:29:15,240 –> 00:29:16,980
making sure that they’re keeping an eye
845
00:29:16,980 –> 00:29:18,179
on the pitcher and Catcher And if the
846
00:29:18,179 –> 00:29:19,620
catcher’s not paying attention to them
847
00:29:19,620 –> 00:29:21,659
learning how and they do it in baseball
848
00:29:21,659 –> 00:29:23,039
all the time but it’s softball it’s a
849
00:29:23,039 –> 00:29:24,059
little bit harder because you have to
850
00:29:24,059 –> 00:29:25,440
make a decision to get back to your base
851
00:29:25,440 –> 00:29:27,600
every single pitch but teaching those
852
00:29:27,600 –> 00:29:29,880
kids when you teach the kids especially
853
00:29:29,880 –> 00:29:31,260
because you’re there and you can manage
854
00:29:31,260 –> 00:29:32,700
it but you’re sort of like teaching them
855
00:29:32,700 –> 00:29:34,020
they think they’re being sneaky and then
856
00:29:34,020 –> 00:29:36,360
you know what actually since you should
857
00:29:36,360 –> 00:29:38,460
try and especially the speedsters you
858
00:29:38,460 –> 00:29:40,320
should send them home and even if they
859
00:29:40,320 –> 00:29:41,940
get tagged out at home so they can work
860
00:29:41,940 –> 00:29:44,159
out what their boundaries are but as
861
00:29:44,159 –> 00:29:47,220
long as you plan ahead and tell them say
862
00:29:47,220 –> 00:29:48,720
listen you’re probably going to get
863
00:29:48,720 –> 00:29:50,100
thrown out here but it’s okay we’re
864
00:29:50,100 –> 00:29:51,659
going to have a go yeah because if you
865
00:29:51,659 –> 00:29:52,740
say that you know we’re going to try and
866
00:29:52,740 –> 00:29:54,539
be sneaky and they get tagged out then
867
00:29:54,539 –> 00:29:55,980
they you know can sometimes cry or you
868
00:29:55,980 –> 00:29:57,480
know my coach got me thrown out I worked
869
00:29:57,480 –> 00:29:59,340
hard to get the third base here but uh
870
00:29:59,340 –> 00:30:00,360
if you tell them like listen you’re
871
00:30:00,360 –> 00:30:01,260
probably going to get out but let’s have
872
00:30:01,260 –> 00:30:02,580
a go away let’s have some fun here and
873
00:30:02,580 –> 00:30:04,559
they get tagged out and if I mean
874
00:30:04,559 –> 00:30:05,820
imagine if they make it if they make it
875
00:30:05,820 –> 00:30:06,899
how happy they’re going to be but if
876
00:30:06,899 –> 00:30:08,340
it’s close they’re like whoa that was
877
00:30:08,340 –> 00:30:09,899
close that was so cool that was fun to
878
00:30:09,899 –> 00:30:12,419
try and if they succeed but it’s also a
879
00:30:12,419 –> 00:30:13,740
genuine thing to try because if you’ve
880
00:30:13,740 –> 00:30:15,419
got you know one of your kids there
881
00:30:15,419 –> 00:30:17,220
that’s their first season and they’ve
882
00:30:17,220 –> 00:30:19,440
had like 20 strikeouts and you know that
883
00:30:19,440 –> 00:30:20,940
they’re probably not going to hit safely
884
00:30:20,940 –> 00:30:22,679
and it’s one of your cheeky kids that
885
00:30:22,679 –> 00:30:24,240
can do it it’s a legitimate option of
886
00:30:24,240 –> 00:30:25,860
trying to score that run you know it’s a
887
00:30:25,860 –> 00:30:27,360
close case this is going to go home very
888
00:30:27,360 –> 00:30:28,919
happy and not only that the whole team’s
889
00:30:28,919 –> 00:30:30,659
watching and then when you do it at
890
00:30:30,659 –> 00:30:31,980
training you go and train it again and
891
00:30:31,980 –> 00:30:33,179
train properly show them what you’re
892
00:30:33,179 –> 00:30:35,700
looking for and you just flick that
893
00:30:35,700 –> 00:30:37,260
switch in their head to go hey there’s
894
00:30:37,260 –> 00:30:38,760
lots of sneaky stuff you can do in this
895
00:30:38,760 –> 00:30:40,080
game so one of the things that New
896
00:30:40,080 –> 00:30:42,059
Zealand softball’s been good at over the
897
00:30:42,059 –> 00:30:45,419
years especially in men’s the women’s uh
898
00:30:45,419 –> 00:30:47,520
also the women’s Got Brains but the
899
00:30:47,520 –> 00:30:49,200
athletic abilities gone down over the
900
00:30:49,200 –> 00:30:51,720
years uh with the women’s uh because a
901
00:30:51,720 –> 00:30:53,039
lot of that’s our best athletes getting
902
00:30:53,039 –> 00:30:55,559
lost to rugby and rugby league and uh
903
00:30:55,559 –> 00:30:57,179
netball other sports that are paying
904
00:30:57,179 –> 00:31:00,720
better in New Zealand uh but yeah we do
905
00:31:00,720 –> 00:31:02,760
have a lot of smart ball players in New
906
00:31:02,760 –> 00:31:05,279
Zealand I actually find the trick plays
907
00:31:05,279 –> 00:31:07,919
uh awesome for the kids just to keep it
908
00:31:07,919 –> 00:31:09,600
exciting well they’re fun to learn so
909
00:31:09,600 –> 00:31:11,460
even with the seniors like with the
910
00:31:11,460 –> 00:31:14,100
Olympia women’s team it’s good fun to do
911
00:31:14,100 –> 00:31:16,919
a new one because it takes a while
912
00:31:16,919 –> 00:31:18,600
the reason why I don’t like spending too
913
00:31:18,600 –> 00:31:20,240
much time on it because
914
00:31:20,240 –> 00:31:23,100
a they’re hard to do and B at such a low
915
00:31:23,100 –> 00:31:24,539
percentage play like I don’t want to
916
00:31:24,539 –> 00:31:26,340
spend a lot of time on a play that
917
00:31:26,340 –> 00:31:27,779
you’re only going to use one two three
918
00:31:27,779 –> 00:31:29,880
percent of the time and out of that
919
00:31:29,880 –> 00:31:31,500
percentage using it it’s still got a low
920
00:31:31,500 –> 00:31:33,840
percentage of working yeah but sometimes
921
00:31:33,840 –> 00:31:34,919
people want to work on them because
922
00:31:34,919 –> 00:31:37,500
they’re sexy cool plays to do but I want
923
00:31:37,500 –> 00:31:38,580
to spend too much time on it but it’s
924
00:31:38,580 –> 00:31:40,380
good for them to know because you know
925
00:31:40,380 –> 00:31:43,200
yeah it’s uh bend the rules think
926
00:31:43,200 –> 00:31:45,500
outside the box think outside the box
927
00:31:45,500 –> 00:31:47,460
there’s some that I didn’t teach the
928
00:31:47,460 –> 00:31:50,100
girls this year uh that I wanted to but
929
00:31:50,100 –> 00:31:53,039
yeah it’s a good question Jesse awesome
930
00:31:53,039 –> 00:31:54,659
cool yeah
931
00:31:54,659 –> 00:31:55,740
um
932
00:31:55,740 –> 00:31:58,380
so what are we gonna do now we we’ve got
933
00:31:58,380 –> 00:32:01,380
like four we’re like yeah we have one
934
00:32:01,380 –> 00:32:04,140
more money in there
935
00:32:04,140 –> 00:32:07,860
four five seven minutes oh questions
936
00:32:07,860 –> 00:32:11,159
yeah now we have one last question but
937
00:32:11,159 –> 00:32:14,340
then again uh he celebrates also uh yeah
938
00:32:14,340 –> 00:32:17,399
we got um we we have a little story
939
00:32:17,399 –> 00:32:21,059
about uh Manny and you we we we can we
940
00:32:21,059 –> 00:32:23,460
don’t have to record that we can just
941
00:32:23,460 –> 00:32:25,260
throw it back on us throw it back later
942
00:32:25,260 –> 00:32:27,120
on him or just ask me what the story is
943
00:32:27,120 –> 00:32:29,580
and then I can uh I can elaborate yeah
944
00:32:29,580 –> 00:32:31,440
well it’s it’s awesome if you’re that’s
945
00:32:31,440 –> 00:32:33,419
like a legendary story about you guys
946
00:32:33,419 –> 00:32:36,000
like like how you become coaches
947
00:32:36,000 –> 00:32:38,220
together and why do you fit so good so
948
00:32:38,220 –> 00:32:41,279
well I know we can just play it now
949
00:32:41,279 –> 00:32:43,559
let’s play it because the the long one
950
00:32:43,559 –> 00:32:46,080
is uh go now so uh we’re gonna listen to
951
00:32:46,080 –> 00:32:49,159
many a little bit
952
00:32:49,460 –> 00:32:53,760
and uh now you’re coaching together and
953
00:32:53,760 –> 00:32:56,640
but how did you become
954
00:32:56,640 –> 00:32:58,440
um or how did you guys fit so well
955
00:32:58,440 –> 00:33:00,360
together as coaches what’s your secret
956
00:33:00,360 –> 00:33:02,640
together
957
00:33:02,640 –> 00:33:06,539
oh do you want the truth or yeah true
958
00:33:06,539 –> 00:33:09,620
for nothing but the truth
959
00:33:10,399 –> 00:33:12,480
I don’t know I don’t know who’s gonna be
960
00:33:12,480 –> 00:33:14,580
listening to this but um I’ll I’ll tell
961
00:33:14,580 –> 00:33:16,559
you the story before he’s probably not
962
00:33:16,559 –> 00:33:19,740
gonna listen to this no yeah well this
963
00:33:19,740 –> 00:33:22,799
is a guy that we yeah I’ll tell you the
964
00:33:22,799 –> 00:33:24,720
story anyway so
965
00:33:24,720 –> 00:33:26,760
um we were playing in the in the Danish
966
00:33:26,760 –> 00:33:30,059
league and um there was a guy there
967
00:33:30,059 –> 00:33:31,799
who um
968
00:33:31,799 –> 00:33:34,440
had a bit of a grudge against Stan and
969
00:33:34,440 –> 00:33:36,720
and Stan’s dead
970
00:33:36,720 –> 00:33:38,640
um he was a chick guy I won’t mention
971
00:33:38,640 –> 00:33:39,799
any names
972
00:33:39,799 –> 00:33:43,500
that’s all right yeah so um he he um was
973
00:33:43,500 –> 00:33:45,899
talking a bit of um crap about uh
974
00:33:45,899 –> 00:33:48,840
Stanley and and Barry obviously well
975
00:33:48,840 –> 00:33:50,399
mostly Barry
976
00:33:50,399 –> 00:33:53,820
and um we we played a game we played the
977
00:33:53,820 –> 00:33:56,220
All-Stars versus the the chick uh the
978
00:33:56,220 –> 00:33:58,799
Danish national team so we put together
979
00:33:58,799 –> 00:34:02,399
a team of um myself Stan at the time was
980
00:34:02,399 –> 00:34:04,500
playing his brother
981
00:34:04,500 –> 00:34:06,179
um his dad and we’ve got a few mates in
982
00:34:06,179 –> 00:34:07,620
and then we had a few other players from
983
00:34:07,620 –> 00:34:09,239
the the Danish league and we played the
984
00:34:09,239 –> 00:34:12,300
uh national team so we we gave them
985
00:34:12,300 –> 00:34:15,359
actually uh very good games we beat them
986
00:34:15,359 –> 00:34:16,020
um
987
00:34:16,020 –> 00:34:18,540
but unless we found out that this guy
988
00:34:18,540 –> 00:34:20,520
was talking a bit of crap about Barry
989
00:34:20,520 –> 00:34:22,739
and um I said
990
00:34:22,739 –> 00:34:25,139
I went and asked then I said right Stan
991
00:34:25,139 –> 00:34:27,300
next time we play them
992
00:34:27,300 –> 00:34:29,460
um I’m gonna hit him twice I says
993
00:34:29,460 –> 00:34:30,899
because I don’t like he’s talking crap
994
00:34:30,899 –> 00:34:33,899
about Barry and uh and and your family I
995
00:34:33,899 –> 00:34:36,119
really like you guys so when we play
996
00:34:36,119 –> 00:34:39,659
them I’m going to beam them twice so
997
00:34:39,659 –> 00:34:42,418
that that that apparently uh we didn’t
998
00:34:42,418 –> 00:34:45,060
play them for a month after that and and
999
00:34:45,060 –> 00:34:47,280
that talk got all around the league and
1000
00:34:47,280 –> 00:34:49,918
everything like this so the the day came
1001
00:34:49,918 –> 00:34:52,440
that we played this team and with this
1002
00:34:52,440 –> 00:34:56,460
chick guy in it and um I says well right
1003
00:34:56,460 –> 00:34:58,440
boys today’s day you know what’s going
1004
00:34:58,440 –> 00:35:00,660
to happen so he came up with his first
1005
00:35:00,660 –> 00:35:02,520
step back in the first pitch I think I
1006
00:35:02,520 –> 00:35:05,220
had him in the ribs and uh he complained
1007
00:35:05,220 –> 00:35:06,960
a little bit to the Umpire and said oh
1008
00:35:06,960 –> 00:35:08,280
he was going to hit me and things like
1009
00:35:08,280 –> 00:35:10,440
that and I said yeah well there’s your
1010
00:35:10,440 –> 00:35:12,359
one mate stop talking crap about
1011
00:35:12,359 –> 00:35:14,040
um Barry Dooney
1012
00:35:14,040 –> 00:35:16,079
so um that was all very well but I said
1013
00:35:16,079 –> 00:35:18,720
I’d hit him twice so he was telling the
1014
00:35:18,720 –> 00:35:20,099
police he’s going to hit me again and
1015
00:35:20,099 –> 00:35:21,660
stuff and
1016
00:35:21,660 –> 00:35:23,280
um what happened he came up for sick in
1017
00:35:23,280 –> 00:35:24,420
that bat
1018
00:35:24,420 –> 00:35:27,240
but what I did was I threw a drop ball
1019
00:35:27,240 –> 00:35:28,740
for the first pitch on the outside
1020
00:35:28,740 –> 00:35:31,320
corner of the plate and he he jumped
1021
00:35:31,320 –> 00:35:32,940
right out of the box thinking that I was
1022
00:35:32,940 –> 00:35:34,400
gonna hit him
1023
00:35:34,400 –> 00:35:37,800
oh my God it runs about laughing a
1024
00:35:37,800 –> 00:35:40,200
little bit and even the umpires laughing
1025
00:35:40,200 –> 00:35:41,520
a little bit going what are you doing
1026
00:35:41,520 –> 00:35:43,380
he’s not going to hit you but the very
1027
00:35:43,380 –> 00:35:46,320
next pitch I hit him again so
1028
00:35:46,320 –> 00:35:48,900
um yeah so of course uh it was quite
1029
00:35:48,900 –> 00:35:51,240
funny but a lot of commotion
1030
00:35:51,240 –> 00:35:54,500
yeah a lot of commotion happened
1031
00:35:54,500 –> 00:35:57,180
I think from them we’ve just had a
1032
00:35:57,180 –> 00:35:59,640
really good mutual respect with uh one
1033
00:35:59,640 –> 00:36:04,760
another and one another’s family so
1034
00:36:06,680 –> 00:36:09,660
yeah so it’s kind of based on loyalty to
1035
00:36:09,660 –> 00:36:10,920
each other
1036
00:36:10,920 –> 00:36:13,380
yeah loyalty and respect
1037
00:36:13,380 –> 00:36:15,599
loyalty and respect man it goes a long
1038
00:36:15,599 –> 00:36:19,020
way awesome absolutely
1039
00:36:19,020 –> 00:36:20,760
that’s a great story
1040
00:36:20,760 –> 00:36:22,740
it’s a true one too I see you’re nodding
1041
00:36:22,740 –> 00:36:26,820
yeah 100 true that one uh yeah all the
1042
00:36:26,820 –> 00:36:29,339
details are correct well it felt like it
1043
00:36:29,339 –> 00:36:31,320
happened yesterday yeah I think everyone
1044
00:36:31,320 –> 00:36:33,480
in any Danish people are listening to
1045
00:36:33,480 –> 00:36:35,579
this they know who uh that that person
1046
00:36:35,579 –> 00:36:38,880
is and actually even his from memory his
1047
00:36:38,880 –> 00:36:40,560
own teammates didn’t really care that we
1048
00:36:40,560 –> 00:36:42,119
popped him twice I think his own
1049
00:36:42,119 –> 00:36:43,560
teammates were sort of like a year we
1050
00:36:43,560 –> 00:36:45,300
get sick of him as well but he’s from
1051
00:36:45,300 –> 00:36:46,619
our club so we have to sort of look
1052
00:36:46,619 –> 00:36:49,440
after him but yeah and yeah it was more
1053
00:36:49,440 –> 00:36:51,300
to do with my father I think because he
1054
00:36:51,300 –> 00:36:53,579
was coaching Penguins my team was you
1055
00:36:53,579 –> 00:36:54,839
know like I said we only won three games
1056
00:36:54,839 –> 00:36:56,700
we weren’t any threats to anyone but
1057
00:36:56,700 –> 00:36:59,040
yeah yeah and I don’t even know what it
1058
00:36:59,040 –> 00:37:00,720
was about when I heard about it I’m like
1059
00:37:00,720 –> 00:37:03,119
oh no I don’t really care but Manny was
1060
00:37:03,119 –> 00:37:04,980
like no I won’t have anyone speak badly
1061
00:37:04,980 –> 00:37:06,359
about you know because I’m out of time
1062
00:37:06,359 –> 00:37:08,700
and effort we put in yeah and we didn’t
1063
00:37:08,700 –> 00:37:11,099
really bad mouth anyone so we don’t know
1064
00:37:11,099 –> 00:37:13,140
where it was coming from and then Maddie
1065
00:37:13,140 –> 00:37:15,300
just goes yeah nah I’m gonna hit him oh
1066
00:37:15,300 –> 00:37:17,660
yeah okay twice
1067
00:37:17,660 –> 00:37:20,160
but the funniest part was when the
1068
00:37:20,160 –> 00:37:21,420
second time came up you’re still like
1069
00:37:21,420 –> 00:37:23,220
coming up there shaking going telling
1070
00:37:23,220 –> 00:37:24,359
the Umpire he’s going to hit me again
1071
00:37:24,359 –> 00:37:26,040
he’s going to hit me again and then he
1072
00:37:26,040 –> 00:37:28,260
as he pitches and he jumps out backwards
1073
00:37:28,260 –> 00:37:29,940
out of the batter’s box and he throws it
1074
00:37:29,940 –> 00:37:31,500
outside ball like you know missing the
1075
00:37:31,500 –> 00:37:34,260
plate by a good few inches and the
1076
00:37:34,260 –> 00:37:35,940
separation was just so funny that like
1077
00:37:35,940 –> 00:37:37,800
everyone was laughing at him and so he
1078
00:37:37,800 –> 00:37:38,940
just comes in and then you’re thinking
1079
00:37:38,940 –> 00:37:41,160
he’s like oh well no maybe he’s got a
1080
00:37:41,160 –> 00:37:42,359
pitch to me and he was just lying about
1081
00:37:42,359 –> 00:37:43,920
the second one and then the very next
1082
00:37:43,920 –> 00:37:46,500
pitch boom it’s too good and he’s going
1083
00:37:46,500 –> 00:37:48,540
to the Empire I told you I told you you
1084
00:37:48,540 –> 00:37:50,400
know you got to reject him and I think I
1085
00:37:50,400 –> 00:37:52,680
put played myself first base
1086
00:37:52,680 –> 00:37:54,240
just so I could be near to the action if
1087
00:37:54,240 –> 00:37:56,220
something didn’t kick off and then uh
1088
00:37:56,220 –> 00:37:57,359
because usually I was playing The
1089
00:37:57,359 –> 00:37:58,320
Outfield
1090
00:37:58,320 –> 00:37:59,820
and I remember coming running in because
1091
00:37:59,820 –> 00:38:00,960
he was trying to get him rejected sort
1092
00:38:00,960 –> 00:38:02,579
of thing like no no no it’s only the
1093
00:38:02,579 –> 00:38:04,560
second guy he’s hit in like you know 16
1094
00:38:04,560 –> 00:38:05,880
betters because he was betting six
1095
00:38:05,880 –> 00:38:07,020
seventh or eighth in the lineup because
1096
00:38:07,020 –> 00:38:09,119
he was a useless player and I’m like and
1097
00:38:09,119 –> 00:38:10,800
you can’t eject someone for only hitting
1098
00:38:10,800 –> 00:38:12,359
someone you know it’s the second better
1099
00:38:12,359 –> 00:38:14,240
hit and 16 at bats
1100
00:38:14,240 –> 00:38:17,220
it’s just a coincidence yeah there’s
1101
00:38:17,220 –> 00:38:19,560
more locks on the fire there it was so
1102
00:38:19,560 –> 00:38:22,200
good it was so oh it was funny yeah it’s
1103
00:38:22,200 –> 00:38:23,880
one of those it’ll never get old that
1104
00:38:23,880 –> 00:38:25,380
story you could tell that as many times
1105
00:38:25,380 –> 00:38:26,460
as you want well if you’re the person
1106
00:38:26,460 –> 00:38:28,920
involved it’s not funny but at the end
1107
00:38:28,920 –> 00:38:31,079
of the day don’t talk smack about anyone
1108
00:38:31,079 –> 00:38:32,520
just keep your mouth shut and you’ll be
1109
00:38:32,520 –> 00:38:34,380
perfectly fine it’s a good lesson don’t
1110
00:38:34,380 –> 00:38:36,300
pop your mouth off even you know or yeah
1111
00:38:36,300 –> 00:38:37,619
just keep it amongst your club or
1112
00:38:37,619 –> 00:38:39,960
something but if you want to speak out
1113
00:38:39,960 –> 00:38:41,040
about it just make sure you’re willing
1114
00:38:41,040 –> 00:38:43,980
to wear the consequences awesome all
1115
00:38:43,980 –> 00:38:45,780
right this awesome story you can fight
1116
00:38:45,780 –> 00:38:47,120
on coach Bill
1117
00:38:47,120 –> 00:38:53,530
[Laughter]
1118
00:38:54,800 –> 00:38:57,180
all right great let’s uh talk a little
1119
00:38:57,180 –> 00:38:59,280
bit of a let’s listen a little bit more
1120
00:38:59,280 –> 00:39:00,960
about too many
1121
00:39:00,960 –> 00:39:03,060
and then um
1122
00:39:03,060 –> 00:39:04,920
when you’re yeah you you guys are are
1123
00:39:04,920 –> 00:39:06,780
heading back home man heading back home
1124
00:39:06,780 –> 00:39:08,359
overseas yeah
1125
00:39:08,359 –> 00:39:11,099
because I heard about Stanley but I
1126
00:39:11,099 –> 00:39:13,800
didn’t quite uh uh heard it from you
1127
00:39:13,800 –> 00:39:15,300
that you’re also going
1128
00:39:15,300 –> 00:39:17,460
yeah
1129
00:39:17,460 –> 00:39:21,060
yeah so so um yeah I’ll be going back to
1130
00:39:21,060 –> 00:39:24,720
New Zealand as well yeah and now talking
1131
00:39:24,720 –> 00:39:27,180
about the departure right what is the
1132
00:39:27,180 –> 00:39:28,800
one thing you’re gonna take back home
1133
00:39:28,800 –> 00:39:31,560
from Holland what is the one thing the
1134
00:39:31,560 –> 00:39:32,880
first thing you’re gonna say to your
1135
00:39:32,880 –> 00:39:35,099
friends in New Zealand well man about
1136
00:39:35,099 –> 00:39:36,420
the dutchies
1137
00:39:36,420 –> 00:39:39,980
cheese this cheese
1138
00:39:39,980 –> 00:39:41,760
oh yeah
1139
00:39:41,760 –> 00:39:43,520
um
1140
00:39:43,520 –> 00:39:47,760
yeah well I I never really was but I
1141
00:39:47,760 –> 00:39:49,619
will be really sad because I’ll never be
1142
00:39:49,619 –> 00:39:53,040
able to order a cheese platter again
1143
00:39:53,040 –> 00:39:54,859
um you know
1144
00:39:54,859 –> 00:39:57,119
give me your address and we’ll send you
1145
00:39:57,119 –> 00:39:58,020
some
1146
00:39:58,020 –> 00:40:00,960
oh if you could I’ll be so grateful like
1147
00:40:00,960 –> 00:40:03,720
uh um I’m thinking about filling up half
1148
00:40:03,720 –> 00:40:06,240
my suitcase full of cheese
1149
00:40:06,240 –> 00:40:09,000
um it’s not gonna get to the Border I
1150
00:40:09,000 –> 00:40:10,020
guess
1151
00:40:10,020 –> 00:40:12,780
yeah exactly they’ll Chuck it all out
1152
00:40:12,780 –> 00:40:15,240
but if anyone from Netherlands coming to
1153
00:40:15,240 –> 00:40:16,500
New Zealand and you want to bring some
1154
00:40:16,500 –> 00:40:18,720
cheese down I’ll really much appreciate
1155
00:40:18,720 –> 00:40:20,940
it so we got a place to stay if we bring
1156
00:40:20,940 –> 00:40:23,240
some cheese
1157
00:40:23,240 –> 00:40:27,119
very cool very cool all right quick if
1158
00:40:27,119 –> 00:40:29,940
you bring some cheese man awesome yeah
1159
00:40:29,940 –> 00:40:32,520
no thank you thanks man we’re going to
1160
00:40:32,520 –> 00:40:34,859
wrap it up um do you have a question for
1161
00:40:34,859 –> 00:40:38,579
Stanley is a final thing a question name
1162
00:40:38,579 –> 00:40:41,880
his top uh well his has all starred
1163
00:40:41,880 –> 00:40:44,280
Dutch team in each position awesome
1164
00:40:44,280 –> 00:40:48,140
there you go honestly yeah
1165
00:40:50,720 –> 00:40:53,940
so after all the years of coaching up
1166
00:40:53,940 –> 00:40:56,940
here in in the Netherlands name your top
1167
00:40:56,940 –> 00:40:58,920
10 best players that are going to start
1168
00:40:58,920 –> 00:41:01,260
we’re not together yeah we’re going to
1169
00:41:01,260 –> 00:41:03,119
do this and we’re also noting it for
1170
00:41:03,119 –> 00:41:04,859
further podcast questions to other
1171
00:41:04,859 –> 00:41:07,079
coaches as well because this is yeah
1172
00:41:07,079 –> 00:41:10,320
that’s a very good question thanks yeah
1173
00:41:10,320 –> 00:41:12,240
cheers boys I appreciate it yeah thanks
1174
00:41:12,240 –> 00:41:14,220
for your time thanks for your time no
1175
00:41:14,220 –> 00:41:16,460
worries
1176
00:41:19,920 –> 00:41:23,760
and that’s many many
1177
00:41:23,760 –> 00:41:25,920
that’s a good question but actually you
1178
00:41:25,920 –> 00:41:28,200
get it let’s have a second to think
1179
00:41:28,200 –> 00:41:31,619
about that yeah let’s uh yeah so the
1180
00:41:31,619 –> 00:41:34,859
first thing we want to ask you is what
1181
00:41:34,859 –> 00:41:36,900
are you gonna bring to New Zealand from
1182
00:41:36,900 –> 00:41:39,000
Holland well I can’t because I need to
1183
00:41:39,000 –> 00:41:40,520
eat it straight away
1184
00:41:40,520 –> 00:41:43,020
you could say the obvious fruit waffles
1185
00:41:43,020 –> 00:41:44,760
yeah those things are always great but
1186
00:41:44,760 –> 00:41:46,380
no my favorite that I’m gonna miss it
1187
00:41:46,380 –> 00:41:48,839
could be your wooden clocks not it’s uh
1188
00:41:48,839 –> 00:41:50,820
I’m gonna miss Turks of pizza oh yeah
1189
00:41:50,820 –> 00:41:53,520
that’s my favorite yeah I mean we have
1190
00:41:53,520 –> 00:41:55,740
similar things in New Zealand it just
1191
00:41:55,740 –> 00:41:57,720
doesn’t taste the same yeah but Turks of
1192
00:41:57,720 –> 00:42:01,380
pizza over here a piece of specific is
1193
00:42:01,380 –> 00:42:03,660
there’s a Cafe De hook on the North side
1194
00:42:03,660 –> 00:42:05,280
yeah there’s a little place outside that
1195
00:42:05,280 –> 00:42:08,099
Pub uh just a standalone and I used to
1196
00:42:08,099 –> 00:42:09,839
go there when I used to live on close to
1197
00:42:09,839 –> 00:42:11,579
Strat I used to go there all the time
1198
00:42:11,579 –> 00:42:15,000
especially after uh games against DSS
1199
00:42:15,000 –> 00:42:17,339
Sparks or Terrace vocals because you’re
1200
00:42:17,339 –> 00:42:18,839
traveling in the same direction on the
1201
00:42:18,839 –> 00:42:20,339
way home always just stop off at that
1202
00:42:20,339 –> 00:42:22,680
Pub have a couple of beers have a Turks
1203
00:42:22,680 –> 00:42:23,660
of pizza
1204
00:42:23,660 –> 00:42:26,760
and then when I moved to the east side
1205
00:42:26,760 –> 00:42:28,680
you know that was I could still do it
1206
00:42:28,680 –> 00:42:31,920
but then obviously DSS uh aren’t in the
1207
00:42:31,920 –> 00:42:34,020
golden League anymore so and Terrace
1208
00:42:34,020 –> 00:42:35,339
vogels out in the golden League anymore
1209
00:42:35,339 –> 00:42:38,520
so seldom get to do that trip but yeah
1210
00:42:38,520 –> 00:42:39,839
you’re gonna miss those Turks of pizza
1211
00:42:39,839 –> 00:42:42,420
moments uh bit of Ballin not gonna I’m
1212
00:42:42,420 –> 00:42:45,200
not gonna miss burning my mouth
1213
00:42:45,200 –> 00:42:47,339
yeah my mouth’s gonna get arrested from
1214
00:42:47,339 –> 00:42:49,619
that uh but I’m gonna miss the shopping
1215
00:42:49,619 –> 00:42:50,780
in general
1216
00:42:50,780 –> 00:42:53,040
vomar is my favorite just going into the
1217
00:42:53,040 –> 00:42:54,780
vomar because the groceries are so much
1218
00:42:54,780 –> 00:42:56,099
cheaper here than they are in New
1219
00:42:56,099 –> 00:42:57,660
Zealand I don’t know if you ask Manny
1220
00:42:57,660 –> 00:42:59,579
that one but the price of groceries is
1221
00:42:59,579 –> 00:43:01,800
ridiculous really yeah so why is that
1222
00:43:01,800 –> 00:43:03,960
really bad I have no idea because we’ve
1223
00:43:03,960 –> 00:43:05,640
got so many sheep and cows you’d think
1224
00:43:05,640 –> 00:43:07,319
that cheese and dairy and milk would be
1225
00:43:07,319 –> 00:43:09,240
a lot cheaper but I think it’s because
1226
00:43:09,240 –> 00:43:11,160
they charge us what the price they can
1227
00:43:11,160 –> 00:43:12,900
get for it when they send it to China I
1228
00:43:12,900 –> 00:43:14,220
don’t know you’d have to ask the powers
1229
00:43:14,220 –> 00:43:17,640
that be but uh all I know is it is very
1230
00:43:17,640 –> 00:43:19,319
expensive when you go do your weekly
1231
00:43:19,319 –> 00:43:20,460
shopping
1232
00:43:20,460 –> 00:43:23,819
actually it’s not very good okay and
1233
00:43:23,819 –> 00:43:24,900
that’s one thing I missed going to the
1234
00:43:24,900 –> 00:43:27,480
Decima Albert Hine yeah all the shops
1235
00:43:27,480 –> 00:43:28,619
that you have here are really good in
1236
00:43:28,619 –> 00:43:30,900
this moment little Aldi those other ones
1237
00:43:30,900 –> 00:43:33,540
are good too but uh yeah I really miss
1238
00:43:33,540 –> 00:43:35,819
just doing the it’s just a small mundane
1239
00:43:35,819 –> 00:43:38,400
riding a bike you know riding a bike we
1240
00:43:38,400 –> 00:43:40,020
don’t have bike Lanes or if we do the
1241
00:43:40,020 –> 00:43:42,119
it’s very Steep and the cars aren’t
1242
00:43:42,119 –> 00:43:43,980
respectful over there in New Zealand you
1243
00:43:43,980 –> 00:43:45,300
know if they hit you if they knock you
1244
00:43:45,300 –> 00:43:47,640
over they just uh yeah you’re you’re a
1245
00:43:47,640 –> 00:43:49,920
pest if you’re riding a bike uh plus the
1246
00:43:49,920 –> 00:43:52,560
it’s too hilly it’s so hard to ride and
1247
00:43:52,560 –> 00:43:54,119
we don’t have as many electric bikes
1248
00:43:54,119 –> 00:43:56,520
either so Direction Pizza it is Turks of
1249
00:43:56,520 –> 00:43:57,780
pizza is my vote that’s what I’m gonna
1250
00:43:57,780 –> 00:44:01,200
be missing instructors and of course oh
1251
00:44:01,200 –> 00:44:02,760
and that’s another thing that the beer
1252
00:44:02,760 –> 00:44:04,619
is uh half price it feels like it’s half
1253
00:44:04,619 –> 00:44:06,780
price here the wine you know you get you
1254
00:44:06,780 –> 00:44:08,160
can get a bottle for three four Euros
1255
00:44:08,160 –> 00:44:10,200
you know it’s all five six seven euros
1256
00:44:10,200 –> 00:44:11,819
for the cheaper ones in New Zealand so
1257
00:44:11,819 –> 00:44:13,560
and we I drink a lot more when I’m here
1258
00:44:13,560 –> 00:44:15,180
than when I’m in New Zealand and we have
1259
00:44:15,180 –> 00:44:16,920
like the Australian wines here you
1260
00:44:16,920 –> 00:44:18,599
should say that it’s cheaper in New
1261
00:44:18,599 –> 00:44:21,480
Zealand the the wines from New Zealand
1262
00:44:21,480 –> 00:44:23,819
can sometimes be cheaper here than what
1263
00:44:23,819 –> 00:44:25,200
you pay for in Australia New Zealand
1264
00:44:25,200 –> 00:44:27,300
it’s ridiculous the other way around it
1265
00:44:27,300 –> 00:44:29,940
is ridiculous yeah I don’t know how or
1266
00:44:29,940 –> 00:44:32,099
why but uh yeah that’s one thing and
1267
00:44:32,099 –> 00:44:33,540
yeah well that’s probably a good thing
1268
00:44:33,540 –> 00:44:34,800
about me going home is I won’t be
1269
00:44:34,800 –> 00:44:36,359
drinking as much because it’s just too
1270
00:44:36,359 –> 00:44:38,400
expensive uh
1271
00:44:38,400 –> 00:44:41,060
and then again World politics
1272
00:44:41,060 –> 00:44:45,140
economics just stick this softball yeah
1273
00:44:45,140 –> 00:44:48,300
just one rule book stick to softball and
1274
00:44:48,300 –> 00:44:51,780
we got another friend uh of ours uh
1275
00:44:51,780 –> 00:44:53,700
Anthony Beaumont still keep the the
1276
00:44:53,700 –> 00:44:56,300
lineup in mind yeah yeah
1277
00:44:56,300 –> 00:44:59,640
I’m I’m buying some time for you I’m
1278
00:44:59,640 –> 00:45:00,599
thinking maybe you’re just doing an
1279
00:45:00,599 –> 00:45:02,880
Olympia one not a uh a Dutch national
1280
00:45:02,880 –> 00:45:04,740
team one maybe just the Olympia one too
1281
00:45:04,740 –> 00:45:06,119
I don’t know if that’s actually the
1282
00:45:06,119 –> 00:45:08,940
question yeah I’m gonna upset some
1283
00:45:08,940 –> 00:45:10,760
people from my own team
1284
00:45:10,760 –> 00:45:13,680
I can understand that yeah that’s all
1285
00:45:13,680 –> 00:45:16,079
right okay I will try to call um
1286
00:45:16,079 –> 00:45:17,400
Anthony
1287
00:45:17,400 –> 00:45:20,400
let’s take a look
1288
00:45:20,400 –> 00:45:21,900
he’s probably sitting at his phone
1289
00:45:21,900 –> 00:45:23,579
watching it for
1290
00:45:23,579 –> 00:45:25,619
like like an hour when is it gonna rain
1291
00:45:25,619 –> 00:45:27,359
did you message him did you text him to
1292
00:45:27,359 –> 00:45:28,800
say hey sorry man we’re running a bit
1293
00:45:28,800 –> 00:45:31,280
late no no
1294
00:45:44,000 –> 00:45:47,700
all right though
1295
00:45:47,700 –> 00:45:51,560
I’m ready all right yes
1296
00:45:54,020 –> 00:45:55,880
this is
1297
00:45:55,880 –> 00:45:59,480
a success coach yeah
1298
00:45:59,480 –> 00:46:01,740
forever all right yeah
1299
00:46:01,740 –> 00:46:03,720
um we ask you to preparate uh some
1300
00:46:03,720 –> 00:46:06,119
questions or one question for uh Stanley
1301
00:46:06,119 –> 00:46:09,420
so um yeah let’s hit it
1302
00:46:09,420 –> 00:46:12,300
yeah yeah I have one question
1303
00:46:12,300 –> 00:46:13,260
um
1304
00:46:13,260 –> 00:46:14,760
Stan
1305
00:46:14,760 –> 00:46:17,880
um you have been pretty successful with
1306
00:46:17,880 –> 00:46:21,839
adults and uh also with the ladies and
1307
00:46:21,839 –> 00:46:25,500
men so yeah I guess you know how to
1308
00:46:25,500 –> 00:46:28,280
coach but what’s the biggest difference
1309
00:46:28,280 –> 00:46:31,040
and what would be the biggest difference
1310
00:46:31,040 –> 00:46:35,300
coaching adults versus kids
1311
00:46:35,520 –> 00:46:37,859
that’s a good one we already talked a
1312
00:46:37,859 –> 00:46:39,599
little bit about that one Yes actually I
1313
00:46:39,599 –> 00:46:42,000
mentioned it earlier and did I get into
1314
00:46:42,000 –> 00:46:44,040
the specifics of that yeah so first and
1315
00:46:44,040 –> 00:46:46,859
foremost is don’t go ahead until you
1316
00:46:46,859 –> 00:46:49,440
know the kid and the parent so you’ve
1317
00:46:49,440 –> 00:46:51,119
got to make sure that you work out what
1318
00:46:51,119 –> 00:46:54,180
the parents want out of you first and
1319
00:46:54,180 –> 00:46:57,060
then also separately find out the kids
1320
00:46:57,060 –> 00:46:58,680
look do you really want what Dad wants
1321
00:46:58,680 –> 00:47:01,560
or do you really want what mum wants uh
1322
00:47:01,560 –> 00:47:04,200
yeah and the other thing is is you just
1323
00:47:04,200 –> 00:47:06,240
gotta make sure you really well we say
1324
00:47:06,240 –> 00:47:07,920
keep it simple at the adults if we’re
1325
00:47:07,920 –> 00:47:09,720
saying keep it simple at the adults then
1326
00:47:09,720 –> 00:47:11,700
you’ve got to really keep it simple with
1327
00:47:11,700 –> 00:47:15,300
the kids as well uh so again what I was
1328
00:47:15,300 –> 00:47:16,680
talking about before one skill one drill
1329
00:47:16,680 –> 00:47:18,660
one skill one drill every training
1330
00:47:18,660 –> 00:47:20,819
session one skill one drill one rule as
1331
00:47:20,819 –> 00:47:22,260
soon as I as long as I hit those with
1332
00:47:22,260 –> 00:47:24,240
the kids then that’s it they’re learning
1333
00:47:24,240 –> 00:47:26,819
yeah and then the main thing is is once
1334
00:47:26,819 –> 00:47:28,380
I’m finished with that assuming that
1335
00:47:28,380 –> 00:47:31,500
like a uh session is for one hour making
1336
00:47:31,500 –> 00:47:33,240
sure you revisit it for the one minute
1337
00:47:33,240 –> 00:47:35,040
before you start practice so whatever
1338
00:47:35,040 –> 00:47:37,440
you cover that day make sure that the
1339
00:47:37,440 –> 00:47:39,619
first minute or two minutes is
1340
00:47:39,619 –> 00:47:42,780
reinforcing whatever rule or skill that
1341
00:47:42,780 –> 00:47:44,819
you taught them and then after that it’s
1342
00:47:44,819 –> 00:47:47,099
up to them what they spend uh in their
1343
00:47:47,099 –> 00:47:48,420
own time because they’re not going to
1344
00:47:48,420 –> 00:47:49,619
get good just from their one hour
1345
00:47:49,619 –> 00:47:51,960
coaching session and that’s why the kids
1346
00:47:51,960 –> 00:47:53,579
that have parents that play are just so
1347
00:47:53,579 –> 00:47:55,560
much better because they get to sit
1348
00:47:55,560 –> 00:47:57,359
there and throw it home they also get to
1349
00:47:57,359 –> 00:47:59,339
discuss it after games they get
1350
00:47:59,339 –> 00:48:00,960
discussed you know how you know what did
1351
00:48:00,960 –> 00:48:02,880
I do how well did I do so they have
1352
00:48:02,880 –> 00:48:04,980
advantages in that regard so another
1353
00:48:04,980 –> 00:48:06,420
thing that I used to make sure that I
1354
00:48:06,420 –> 00:48:09,660
did is I knew which parents did play so
1355
00:48:09,660 –> 00:48:11,099
the ones that did play you knew that
1356
00:48:11,099 –> 00:48:12,599
they had extra help when they went home
1357
00:48:12,599 –> 00:48:14,099
so they didn’t need your attention as
1358
00:48:14,099 –> 00:48:16,079
much they’re more probably criticizing
1359
00:48:16,079 –> 00:48:17,460
and analyzing the coach than anything
1360
00:48:17,460 –> 00:48:19,740
but then making sure that I spend that
1361
00:48:19,740 –> 00:48:21,119
extra time on the kids that don’t have
1362
00:48:21,119 –> 00:48:24,000
parents that play that’s a good one
1363
00:48:24,000 –> 00:48:26,520
fair enough
1364
00:48:26,520 –> 00:48:28,260
fair enough thank you that’s a nice
1365
00:48:28,260 –> 00:48:30,859
answer I I think a nice answer for uh
1366
00:48:30,859 –> 00:48:34,800
for uh Paul Holland to learn from also
1367
00:48:34,800 –> 00:48:38,119
yeah you have to identify no well
1368
00:48:38,119 –> 00:48:40,020
information and knowledge is everything
1369
00:48:40,020 –> 00:48:41,880
the more information and knowledge you
1370
00:48:41,880 –> 00:48:43,140
have
1371
00:48:43,140 –> 00:48:45,480
um into the not the private lives but of
1372
00:48:45,480 –> 00:48:47,880
the parents and also like you know they
1373
00:48:47,880 –> 00:48:49,440
may be good at another sport but you
1374
00:48:49,440 –> 00:48:50,520
know some of them have been a former
1375
00:48:50,520 –> 00:48:52,380
really good football player you know
1376
00:48:52,380 –> 00:48:54,000
like I’m pretty sure isn’t it volkstad
1377
00:48:54,000 –> 00:48:56,220
wasn’t he like a professional footballer
1378
00:48:56,220 –> 00:48:57,720
from back in the day and stuff like that
1379
00:48:57,720 –> 00:49:00,000
because you yeah like I see I don’t know
1380
00:49:00,000 –> 00:49:01,380
why no information like this because I
1381
00:49:01,380 –> 00:49:03,000
even delve in so when I was with the
1382
00:49:03,000 –> 00:49:04,380
national team I sort of like look in and
1383
00:49:04,380 –> 00:49:06,180
I want to know you know or the national
1384
00:49:06,180 –> 00:49:07,800
team what do their parents do what were
1385
00:49:07,800 –> 00:49:09,359
they good at and then you know I just do
1386
00:49:09,359 –> 00:49:11,460
it from asking you know so I know stuff
1387
00:49:11,460 –> 00:49:12,960
about players that haven’t even played
1388
00:49:12,960 –> 00:49:14,220
for me you know because you just sit
1389
00:49:14,220 –> 00:49:15,900
there and try and work out what makes
1390
00:49:15,900 –> 00:49:17,400
them tick what makes them work you know
1391
00:49:17,400 –> 00:49:18,540
what do they have their knowledge on why
1392
00:49:18,540 –> 00:49:20,400
are they such Ballers
1393
00:49:20,400 –> 00:49:22,319
um yeah there’s loads of different
1394
00:49:22,319 –> 00:49:24,480
reasons why the way they are or if they
1395
00:49:24,480 –> 00:49:26,160
get nervous before games you know you’ve
1396
00:49:26,160 –> 00:49:28,500
got to find out the reasons why
1397
00:49:28,500 –> 00:49:30,000
um and that’s from asking a lot of
1398
00:49:30,000 –> 00:49:31,680
questions without trying to seem too
1399
00:49:31,680 –> 00:49:35,579
intrusive we can do that yeah coaches we
1400
00:49:35,579 –> 00:49:37,260
ask of course a lot of questions but
1401
00:49:37,260 –> 00:49:39,900
then again if do you also have to ask
1402
00:49:39,900 –> 00:49:43,859
parents from grown-ups a lot of question
1403
00:49:43,859 –> 00:49:45,319
as well
1404
00:49:45,319 –> 00:49:48,300
does the grown-ups should suit it for
1405
00:49:48,300 –> 00:49:50,160
for themselves no no you have to do that
1406
00:49:50,160 –> 00:49:51,900
it’s up to you to go and extract that
1407
00:49:51,900 –> 00:49:54,300
information but also it’s the the
1408
00:49:54,300 –> 00:49:55,740
setting and environment that you’re
1409
00:49:55,740 –> 00:49:57,900
doing as well like what works for me
1410
00:49:57,900 –> 00:50:00,300
yeah well you guys know I like having a
1411
00:50:00,300 –> 00:50:02,819
beer so most of my work started at the
1412
00:50:02,819 –> 00:50:05,099
bar all our workers coaches and we have
1413
00:50:05,099 –> 00:50:06,420
a pretty big coaching staff in Olympia
1414
00:50:06,420 –> 00:50:09,060
with the women’s team you know all our
1415
00:50:09,060 –> 00:50:11,579
planning is done you know around a jug
1416
00:50:11,579 –> 00:50:13,260
of beer once the girls all go home you
1417
00:50:13,260 –> 00:50:15,240
know they’ve got their one hour not nine
1418
00:50:15,240 –> 00:50:17,460
hours to go home but we would spend half
1419
00:50:17,460 –> 00:50:19,619
an hour an hour sometimes two hours you
1420
00:50:19,619 –> 00:50:21,060
know planning preparing how we’re going
1421
00:50:21,060 –> 00:50:22,920
to do things updating each other you
1422
00:50:22,920 –> 00:50:24,359
know sometimes I’m not a training next
1423
00:50:24,359 –> 00:50:25,800
week I’ve got this to go to I’ve got
1424
00:50:25,800 –> 00:50:27,660
this part you know oh this player is not
1425
00:50:27,660 –> 00:50:28,800
going to be here and another thing I
1426
00:50:28,800 –> 00:50:30,839
used to do with our team is I wasn’t in
1427
00:50:30,839 –> 00:50:32,700
charge of all the girls the girls got to
1428
00:50:32,700 –> 00:50:34,680
choose who their favorite coach was so
1429
00:50:34,680 –> 00:50:37,440
just let a coach know and then the coach
1430
00:50:37,440 –> 00:50:38,760
will come and speak to us I think with
1431
00:50:38,760 –> 00:50:40,140
the men’s team we had a leadership group
1432
00:50:40,140 –> 00:50:41,880
yeah that’s why I said go and speak to
1433
00:50:41,880 –> 00:50:43,740
your team captain of your position
1434
00:50:43,740 –> 00:50:45,420
communication because I don’t want to
1435
00:50:45,420 –> 00:50:47,640
deal with 14 different people’s lives
1436
00:50:47,640 –> 00:50:50,040
you know I only want to deal with you
1437
00:50:50,040 –> 00:50:51,420
know whatever the problems are through
1438
00:50:51,420 –> 00:50:53,880
the the leadership group and then that
1439
00:50:53,880 –> 00:50:56,760
sort of divides my time up by four
1440
00:50:56,760 –> 00:50:58,380
whereas if I try to do it all myself
1441
00:50:58,380 –> 00:50:59,880
it’s not possible and that’s another
1442
00:50:59,880 –> 00:51:01,920
thing that uh youth coaches need to work
1443
00:51:01,920 –> 00:51:03,780
out as well if you do have that parent
1444
00:51:03,780 –> 00:51:06,480
that does know you know how to play uh
1445
00:51:06,480 –> 00:51:08,579
ask you don’t have to say hey I need
1446
00:51:08,579 –> 00:51:09,900
help there’s a different way of saying
1447
00:51:09,900 –> 00:51:11,099
it’s like going hey if you do have some
1448
00:51:11,099 –> 00:51:13,079
spare time yeah whatever time they can
1449
00:51:13,079 –> 00:51:14,760
give they say oh no I’m busy with work
1450
00:51:14,760 –> 00:51:16,319
and says oh but I can do three sessions
1451
00:51:16,319 –> 00:51:18,839
a year take it perfect if that’s three
1452
00:51:18,839 –> 00:51:20,400
hours of listening to a different voice
1453
00:51:20,400 –> 00:51:22,079
or if they’re a specialist a short stop
1454
00:51:22,079 –> 00:51:24,059
or a catcher or they do something that
1455
00:51:24,059 –> 00:51:26,520
you can’t you’ve got to tap into it um
1456
00:51:26,520 –> 00:51:28,319
but again you just got to know and ask
1457
00:51:28,319 –> 00:51:31,200
and keep your ears open it’s your ears
1458
00:51:31,200 –> 00:51:32,819
man you’ve got to keep your ears open at
1459
00:51:32,819 –> 00:51:35,940
all times all right well thanks and uh
1460
00:51:35,940 –> 00:51:38,940
thanks a lot to Intel hey uh question uh
1461
00:51:38,940 –> 00:51:41,220
for you and so can we call you another
1462
00:51:41,220 –> 00:51:43,200
time
1463
00:51:43,200 –> 00:51:46,020
of course you can all right oh watch out
1464
00:51:46,020 –> 00:51:48,599
because we will do awesome can I call
1465
00:51:48,599 –> 00:51:49,540
you in time
1466
00:51:49,540 –> 00:51:51,240
[Laughter]
1467
00:51:51,240 –> 00:51:52,500
it’s not one of those numbers where I
1468
00:51:52,500 –> 00:51:53,940
have to pay like I don’t have to pay two
1469
00:51:53,940 –> 00:51:56,960
Euros per minute to speak to you do I
1470
00:51:56,960 –> 00:52:00,900
uh the bill will come later okay sweet
1471
00:52:00,900 –> 00:52:02,579
all right thanks have a nice evening
1472
00:52:02,579 –> 00:52:03,920
ciao
1473
00:52:03,920 –> 00:52:06,540
okay bye
1474
00:52:06,540 –> 00:52:09,359
cool okay cool awesome that’s a good
1475
00:52:09,359 –> 00:52:12,059
answer as well it’s it’s it had like
1476
00:52:12,059 –> 00:52:15,000
three different answers in one yeah what
1477
00:52:15,000 –> 00:52:16,980
I pick out is just try to get the extra
1478
00:52:16,980 –> 00:52:20,280
help divide your time by making more
1479
00:52:20,280 –> 00:52:23,400
people important in your team yes and
1480
00:52:23,400 –> 00:52:24,780
make sure you have your planning right
1481
00:52:24,780 –> 00:52:27,059
for the next week is that a little bit
1482
00:52:27,059 –> 00:52:30,000
of the exactly it perfect and uh players
1483
00:52:30,000 –> 00:52:31,260
tend to have favorite like when you’re
1484
00:52:31,260 –> 00:52:32,819
running the Olympia women’s team we have
1485
00:52:32,819 –> 00:52:34,920
what four or five coaches well and team
1486
00:52:34,920 –> 00:52:37,079
manager but sometimes the girls like the
1487
00:52:37,079 –> 00:52:38,520
team manager they don’t like any of the
1488
00:52:38,520 –> 00:52:40,800
coaches so if they don’t like any of the
1489
00:52:40,800 –> 00:52:42,059
coaches that they’ve got no one to go to
1490
00:52:42,059 –> 00:52:43,920
they might just bottle something up but
1491
00:52:43,920 –> 00:52:45,540
like Lars is our team manager and he’s
1492
00:52:45,540 –> 00:52:47,640
been there a long time but uh you know
1493
00:52:47,640 –> 00:52:49,140
sometimes the girls would like to speak
1494
00:52:49,140 –> 00:52:50,940
to Lars more than what they will myself
1495
00:52:50,940 –> 00:52:53,339
or Manny or Niels or you know it’s just
1496
00:52:53,339 –> 00:52:54,839
it just depends and that’s why it’s
1497
00:52:54,839 –> 00:52:56,520
important to try and have a female in
1498
00:52:56,520 –> 00:52:58,680
your coaching group uh not just males
1499
00:52:58,680 –> 00:53:00,180
you look at some of the other coaching
1500
00:53:00,180 –> 00:53:02,220
groups they have nothing but males yeah
1501
00:53:02,220 –> 00:53:04,260
uh well you know there’s something that
1502
00:53:04,260 –> 00:53:06,119
males there’s some women things that
1503
00:53:06,119 –> 00:53:07,440
happen that only women can deal with
1504
00:53:07,440 –> 00:53:09,359
yeah that’s why I was Fighters I always
1505
00:53:09,359 –> 00:53:11,880
try and have a female member of Staff uh
1506
00:53:11,880 –> 00:53:14,520
in the group yeah minimum one yeah but I
1507
00:53:14,520 –> 00:53:16,619
think also with the boys team a female
1508
00:53:16,619 –> 00:53:19,740
uh crew member can help a lot I can
1509
00:53:19,740 –> 00:53:22,380
actually relate to that because
1510
00:53:22,380 –> 00:53:24,780
um I have made two of my girls uh
1511
00:53:24,780 –> 00:53:27,059
Captain not one I made two Captain
1512
00:53:27,059 –> 00:53:29,520
because the same reason you might not
1513
00:53:29,520 –> 00:53:32,940
like one so you can go to the other and
1514
00:53:32,940 –> 00:53:36,420
I gave them both a job one is doing the
1515
00:53:36,420 –> 00:53:39,059
the warm-up and it’s the the dynamic
1516
00:53:39,059 –> 00:53:40,980
warm-up you know just to keep it simple
1517
00:53:40,980 –> 00:53:43,380
and the other one is
1518
00:53:43,380 –> 00:53:46,079
um how do you say that
1519
00:53:46,079 –> 00:53:48,839
um thinking about one drill to do
1520
00:53:48,839 –> 00:53:51,660
and I do the warm-up I’m preparing the
1521
00:53:51,660 –> 00:53:54,119
the materials and I’m watching the group
1522
00:53:54,119 –> 00:53:55,680
you can see who is who’s good today
1523
00:53:55,680 –> 00:53:58,440
who’s who’s tired and so you don’t have
1524
00:53:58,440 –> 00:54:01,740
to worry about personal issues but make
1525
00:54:01,740 –> 00:54:04,440
them important and make sure you don’t
1526
00:54:04,440 –> 00:54:05,940
have to deal with everybody yourself
1527
00:54:05,940 –> 00:54:07,859
it’s a double whammy it’s one like it’s
1528
00:54:07,859 –> 00:54:09,720
feel important and they should but two
1529
00:54:09,720 –> 00:54:11,880
it lessens your workload so even with
1530
00:54:11,880 –> 00:54:13,020
the duties I don’t even go one step
1531
00:54:13,020 –> 00:54:14,280
further than that and I’d give them the
1532
00:54:14,280 –> 00:54:16,200
lineup board and then combine them
1533
00:54:16,200 –> 00:54:17,339
together and say this is the thing you
1534
00:54:17,339 –> 00:54:19,200
do today is like give me your lineup
1535
00:54:19,200 –> 00:54:21,240
yeah say you know put a line up together
1536
00:54:21,240 –> 00:54:23,760
and actually I do it with uh my teams
1537
00:54:23,760 –> 00:54:25,980
even notice did I do it with you guys
1538
00:54:25,980 –> 00:54:28,079
yeah yeah I say give me your finals team
1539
00:54:28,079 –> 00:54:29,579
at the end of the year so I give them
1540
00:54:29,579 –> 00:54:31,619
all a sheet of paper and I say hey if
1541
00:54:31,619 –> 00:54:32,760
we’re playing Holland series tomorrow
1542
00:54:32,760 –> 00:54:34,500
give me your winning life well actually
1543
00:54:34,500 –> 00:54:36,119
I get I asked them to do me too I say
1544
00:54:36,119 –> 00:54:38,280
put one where you have to be in it and
1545
00:54:38,280 –> 00:54:39,960
give me a second one where you’re not
1546
00:54:39,960 –> 00:54:42,059
allowed to be in it that’s cool and we
1547
00:54:42,059 –> 00:54:43,200
do that at the beginning of the year
1548
00:54:43,200 –> 00:54:44,940
like after the first or second trading
1549
00:54:44,940 –> 00:54:46,800
session but you know how much that helps
1550
00:54:46,800 –> 00:54:49,920
me it allows me to know what the players
1551
00:54:49,920 –> 00:54:52,200
are all thinking and I keep them all
1552
00:54:52,200 –> 00:54:53,579
because there’s always someone that’s
1553
00:54:53,579 –> 00:54:56,640
close oh it’s fun to work with yeah and
1554
00:54:56,640 –> 00:54:58,140
because you don’t know what it’s going
1555
00:54:58,140 –> 00:54:59,040
to look like at the end of the year it
1556
00:54:59,040 –> 00:55:00,480
could be injuries or you know someone’s
1557
00:55:00,480 –> 00:55:01,980
inform out of form that there’s always
1558
00:55:01,980 –> 00:55:04,740
one that’s either bang on or very very
1559
00:55:04,740 –> 00:55:07,079
close and then I have to go all right
1560
00:55:07,079 –> 00:55:09,119
who’s this one you know yeah yeah I
1561
00:55:09,119 –> 00:55:10,559
think it was one year Rachel van Veen
1562
00:55:10,559 –> 00:55:12,119
got a spot on yeah it’s kind of funny
1563
00:55:12,119 –> 00:55:14,099
but it’s also gives us information to
1564
00:55:14,099 –> 00:55:15,900
what the players are thinking about who
1565
00:55:15,900 –> 00:55:17,880
should be playing where and how
1566
00:55:17,880 –> 00:55:19,920
um but for me as a player I thought it
1567
00:55:19,920 –> 00:55:21,720
was really difficult because then you
1568
00:55:21,720 –> 00:55:23,880
had to compare yourself in a realistic
1569
00:55:23,880 –> 00:55:25,980
way to other players in your team it was
1570
00:55:25,980 –> 00:55:28,140
really hard yeah but it brings some
1571
00:55:28,140 –> 00:55:29,700
realism to as well just there and having
1572
00:55:29,700 –> 00:55:31,380
to rank yourself amongst the team that’s
1573
00:55:31,380 –> 00:55:33,540
why I get two so it makes it easier when
1574
00:55:33,540 –> 00:55:34,680
you have to put yourself in when you
1575
00:55:34,680 –> 00:55:35,880
have to put in one should be hard and
1576
00:55:35,880 –> 00:55:39,359
one should be slightly easier yeah so
1577
00:55:39,359 –> 00:55:40,920
um but yeah that’s a cool one I think
1578
00:55:40,920 –> 00:55:43,020
I’m gonna do that next year and you know
1579
00:55:43,020 –> 00:55:44,160
the other thing it does teachers the
1580
00:55:44,160 –> 00:55:46,319
Juniors the 10 11 12 13 year olds how to
1581
00:55:46,319 –> 00:55:48,540
write a lineup at a young age yeah think
1582
00:55:48,540 –> 00:55:49,800
about it yeah I get the name you have
1583
00:55:49,800 –> 00:55:51,180
the pieces of paper you make them or
1584
00:55:51,180 –> 00:55:52,619
write it and then they’re like oh what
1585
00:55:52,619 –> 00:55:54,359
what’s left field oh that’s number seven
1586
00:55:54,359 –> 00:55:57,119
oh okay well no but it starts teaching
1587
00:55:57,119 –> 00:55:58,319
them you know what the numbers are and
1588
00:55:58,319 –> 00:56:01,200
the positions and you know so it’s not
1589
00:56:01,200 –> 00:56:02,579
too young to start teaching them how to
1590
00:56:02,579 –> 00:56:04,740
be a coach and and what the numbers mean
1591
00:56:04,740 –> 00:56:06,960
and you know well that’s what I told uh
1592
00:56:06,960 –> 00:56:09,000
what we’re talking about before uh uh we
1593
00:56:09,000 –> 00:56:12,059
started the podcast and um last last
1594
00:56:12,059 –> 00:56:14,040
tournament I played hoodie on the 12th I
1595
00:56:14,040 –> 00:56:18,920
made this this box with uh nine uh oh
1596
00:56:18,920 –> 00:56:21,359
the numbers on it of each position you
1597
00:56:21,359 –> 00:56:24,119
know they had to pick one so I had a
1598
00:56:24,119 –> 00:56:25,920
completely different lineup every inning
1599
00:56:25,920 –> 00:56:28,859
and man oh man the questions I’ve got
1600
00:56:28,859 –> 00:56:30,780
where’s number three
1601
00:56:30,780 –> 00:56:33,180
um I have number four where’s that um
1602
00:56:33,180 –> 00:56:35,220
number seven is it the left or the right
1603
00:56:35,220 –> 00:56:37,140
field and I was like
1604
00:56:37,140 –> 00:56:39,420
it’s on the board so I put on the board
1605
00:56:39,420 –> 00:56:41,579
and they could actually see where I have
1606
00:56:41,579 –> 00:56:43,859
to be and if if you if you can imagine
1607
00:56:43,859 –> 00:56:46,140
everybody going out on the field and the
1608
00:56:46,140 –> 00:56:47,220
board hanging there and it was the
1609
00:56:47,220 –> 00:56:50,940
opposite way oh so they were all hey I’m
1610
00:56:50,940 –> 00:56:54,359
here oh it was hilarious but the thing
1611
00:56:54,359 –> 00:56:55,619
is eventually they’ll get it right yeah
1612
00:56:55,619 –> 00:56:57,180
you do it a second time and a third time
1613
00:56:57,180 –> 00:56:59,940
and uh and one of the things I’ve pride
1614
00:56:59,940 –> 00:57:02,819
myself for being in Olympia is like I
1615
00:57:02,819 –> 00:57:04,680
said we keep a lot of it simple in what
1616
00:57:04,680 –> 00:57:06,900
we do is for the first half hour 40
1617
00:57:06,900 –> 00:57:08,940
minutes the coaches we can sit there and
1618
00:57:08,940 –> 00:57:10,319
say nothing we do a little bit of Team
1619
00:57:10,319 –> 00:57:11,640
talk at the beginning and they go off
1620
00:57:11,640 –> 00:57:13,079
and what you would have experienced it
1621
00:57:13,079 –> 00:57:14,520
with bins how we just do the same thing
1622
00:57:14,520 –> 00:57:16,859
and then don’t see them for half an hour
1623
00:57:16,859 –> 00:57:18,480
and they know the first half hour of the
1624
00:57:18,480 –> 00:57:20,880
warm-up and just go through it the thing
1625
00:57:20,880 –> 00:57:22,680
that annoyed me sometimes is them
1626
00:57:22,680 –> 00:57:24,359
knowing when to chime in because once
1627
00:57:24,359 –> 00:57:25,380
they’ve done their warm up some of them
1628
00:57:25,380 –> 00:57:26,520
would go off and sit off and do nothing
1629
00:57:26,520 –> 00:57:28,500
but I was training them up like no be a
1630
00:57:28,500 –> 00:57:30,660
good teammate divide them in two and hit
1631
00:57:30,660 –> 00:57:32,280
to each other and stuff like that and
1632
00:57:32,280 –> 00:57:33,599
you know that’s the part we have to
1633
00:57:33,599 –> 00:57:35,400
coach to train them how to be a good
1634
00:57:35,400 –> 00:57:37,380
teammate and help one another out but
1635
00:57:37,380 –> 00:57:38,940
yeah in terms of the Juniors they’re
1636
00:57:38,940 –> 00:57:40,680
only as dumb as we treat them if you’re
1637
00:57:40,680 –> 00:57:42,059
willing to train them up you can train
1638
00:57:42,059 –> 00:57:43,680
them up as early as possible as you want
1639
00:57:43,680 –> 00:57:45,599
and uh then you can go even further
1640
00:57:45,599 –> 00:57:47,339
we’re like okay if there’s games that
1641
00:57:47,339 –> 00:57:49,020
don’t mean anything hey you go coach
1642
00:57:49,020 –> 00:57:51,180
third you coach third you coach first
1643
00:57:51,180 –> 00:57:52,920
coach just got to sit here and they dug
1644
00:57:52,920 –> 00:57:54,540
out and hang out with the players and
1645
00:57:54,540 –> 00:57:55,800
I’d even do that a couple of times this
1646
00:57:55,800 –> 00:57:57,599
year I put Neil’s Meeker he’d go and
1647
00:57:57,599 –> 00:57:59,400
Coach Third Base I’d just sit in there
1648
00:57:59,400 –> 00:58:00,720
and do nothing he’d go coach the men’s
1649
00:58:00,720 –> 00:58:02,400
team at third base as well because you
1650
00:58:02,400 –> 00:58:03,660
need to we call it time in the saddle
1651
00:58:03,660 –> 00:58:05,460
you need time in the saddle at some
1652
00:58:05,460 –> 00:58:07,980
point to uh you know and the thing is if
1653
00:58:07,980 –> 00:58:09,119
you’ve never done it before and you tell
1654
00:58:09,119 –> 00:58:10,920
Niels was excited to be in there he’s
1655
00:58:10,920 –> 00:58:12,240
like going poor because you know you’re
1656
00:58:12,240 –> 00:58:13,980
the head coach now you’re the man and
1657
00:58:13,980 –> 00:58:15,059
then you sort of forget little things
1658
00:58:15,059 –> 00:58:16,440
like that you you know you don’t take it
1659
00:58:16,440 –> 00:58:17,520
for granted then when you sit there and
1660
00:58:17,520 –> 00:58:18,839
you see Neil’s having so much fun you’re
1661
00:58:18,839 –> 00:58:21,960
like okay I better go back take over now
1662
00:58:21,960 –> 00:58:24,960
he’s having too much fun out there
1663
00:58:24,960 –> 00:58:29,540
so um you’re a professional coach
1664
00:58:29,540 –> 00:58:32,220
professional yeah well
1665
00:58:32,220 –> 00:58:34,260
I’m not that’s not like football we’re
1666
00:58:34,260 –> 00:58:36,299
earning Mega amounts of money but have I
1667
00:58:36,299 –> 00:58:38,339
been doing this for the last 20 years uh
1668
00:58:38,339 –> 00:58:39,780
as yeah this is what I’ve been doing for
1669
00:58:39,780 –> 00:58:41,700
the last 20 years okay like I said I had
1670
00:58:41,700 –> 00:58:43,140
to take a huge pay cut when I left Great
1671
00:58:43,140 –> 00:58:45,059
Britain softball when I was at Great
1672
00:58:45,059 –> 00:58:46,980
Britain when I was in Denmark yeah I was
1673
00:58:46,980 –> 00:58:49,140
on back in New Zealand yeah I was on a
1674
00:58:49,140 –> 00:58:51,480
proper wage uh coaching softball yeah
1675
00:58:51,480 –> 00:58:53,160
but you know that usually entails either
1676
00:58:53,160 –> 00:58:55,319
coaching multiple teams or going out to
1677
00:58:55,319 –> 00:58:56,760
the schools here and there all right
1678
00:58:56,760 –> 00:58:58,440
lots of different things that come with
1679
00:58:58,440 –> 00:59:00,900
it whereas here I’ve been fortunate
1680
00:59:00,900 –> 00:59:02,280
enough to have made enough money where I
1681
00:59:02,280 –> 00:59:06,119
can just look after it yeah and uh enjoy
1682
00:59:06,119 –> 00:59:07,980
my time but it’s another reason I’ve got
1683
00:59:07,980 –> 00:59:09,480
to get back to New Zealand I guess
1684
00:59:09,480 –> 00:59:11,579
they’re only profit money again
1685
00:59:11,579 –> 00:59:14,099
so talking about time so how do you
1686
00:59:14,099 –> 00:59:16,380
spend like a day a day as a as a coach
1687
00:59:16,380 –> 00:59:18,839
here in Olympia describe a typical day
1688
00:59:18,839 –> 00:59:22,339
please uh well I spend most of my time
1689
00:59:22,339 –> 00:59:25,500
relaxing during the day I I love having
1690
00:59:25,500 –> 00:59:27,359
spare time so I you know watch my
1691
00:59:27,359 –> 00:59:30,000
Netflix I watch a lot of other sports so
1692
00:59:30,000 –> 00:59:32,880
I’ll watch NFL NCAA different college
1693
00:59:32,880 –> 00:59:35,579
sports uh catch up with my Rugby in New
1694
00:59:35,579 –> 00:59:37,799
Zealand Cricket so there’s so much sport
1695
00:59:37,799 –> 00:59:39,960
going on worldwide I could easily sit at
1696
00:59:39,960 –> 00:59:41,700
the pub and watch sport for 8 10 12
1697
00:59:41,700 –> 00:59:43,500
hours a day but you know obviously can’t
1698
00:59:43,500 –> 00:59:46,079
drink for that much so but I can sit at
1699
00:59:46,079 –> 00:59:48,480
home you know rugged up and watch it so
1700
00:59:48,480 –> 00:59:51,619
I’m a very big Sports enthuser all right
1701
00:59:51,619 –> 00:59:55,260
it’s also like a hobby for you yes yeah
1702
00:59:55,260 –> 00:59:56,579
and there’s lots of other sports I did
1703
00:59:56,579 –> 00:59:58,500
play as well so I I didn’t just play
1704
00:59:58,500 –> 01:00:00,000
softball I also played rugby league
1705
01:00:00,000 –> 01:00:02,460
growing up a bit of Rugby Union Aussie
1706
01:00:02,460 –> 01:00:05,339
Rules Football uh touch uh Indoor
1707
01:00:05,339 –> 01:00:07,319
Cricket there’s so many other sports
1708
01:00:07,319 –> 01:00:09,059
that I used to play uh growing up
1709
01:00:09,059 –> 01:00:11,339
especially when I was 18 19 20 21. every
1710
01:00:11,339 –> 01:00:13,559
day it was just uh spin doing Sport and
1711
01:00:13,559 –> 01:00:15,000
I didn’t have as much spare time as what
1712
01:00:15,000 –> 01:00:16,440
people think here because I took on the
1713
01:00:16,440 –> 01:00:18,119
men’s team as well this year Monday
1714
01:00:18,119 –> 01:00:20,160
night training Tuesday training Thursday
1715
01:00:20,160 –> 01:00:22,260
training Friday game day Saturday game
1716
01:00:22,260 –> 01:00:25,319
day so Plus anything that goes with it
1717
01:00:25,319 –> 01:00:28,619
to do it properly you get exhausted and
1718
01:00:28,619 –> 01:00:30,420
there were not once but twice this year
1719
01:00:30,420 –> 01:00:33,420
where I was very tired uh yeah so you’d
1720
01:00:33,420 –> 01:00:34,859
think how can you get tired when you
1721
01:00:34,859 –> 01:00:36,180
know and I don’t have to do it nine to
1722
01:00:36,180 –> 01:00:38,880
five no but it’s also differently ah
1723
01:00:38,880 –> 01:00:40,859
yeah they’re always responsibility as
1724
01:00:40,859 –> 01:00:42,900
well yeah and you just knows what’s the
1725
01:00:42,900 –> 01:00:44,520
players you know any question that a
1726
01:00:44,520 –> 01:00:46,260
player has you know there’s port 13 in
1727
01:00:46,260 –> 01:00:48,540
the men’s team 16 in the women’s plus
1728
01:00:48,540 –> 01:00:50,220
the coaching staff and the board and
1729
01:00:50,220 –> 01:00:51,359
you’ve got to you know look after
1730
01:00:51,359 –> 01:00:52,559
everything make sure it’s all right
1731
01:00:52,559 –> 01:00:54,960
planning for the premiere cup uh trying
1732
01:00:54,960 –> 01:00:56,520
to get the men’s team to the European
1733
01:00:56,520 –> 01:00:59,460
Cup next year as well so yeah there’s
1734
01:00:59,460 –> 01:01:01,020
people don’t realize how much there is
1735
01:01:01,020 –> 01:01:02,339
plus other players that want to play in
1736
01:01:02,339 –> 01:01:04,079
New Zealand or you know inquiring about
1737
01:01:04,079 –> 01:01:06,240
coming to Olympia next year it’s the
1738
01:01:06,240 –> 01:01:07,380
head coach has to have all those
1739
01:01:07,380 –> 01:01:08,700
conversations and there’s so many
1740
01:01:08,700 –> 01:01:10,020
conversations there that’s one thing I’m
1741
01:01:10,020 –> 01:01:11,700
not going to miss I’m not going to miss
1742
01:01:11,700 –> 01:01:13,920
uh the many many conversations that are
1743
01:01:13,920 –> 01:01:15,059
needed
1744
01:01:15,059 –> 01:01:18,059
um sorry for the podcast here yeah well
1745
01:01:18,059 –> 01:01:19,319
no this this is the part that I love
1746
01:01:19,319 –> 01:01:20,520
because it’s something a little bit new
1747
01:01:20,520 –> 01:01:22,559
and you know I’ve done some interviews
1748
01:01:22,559 –> 01:01:24,660
with kobus and some back in New Zealand
1749
01:01:24,660 –> 01:01:28,020
and it’s just good fun to uh we’ll help
1750
01:01:28,020 –> 01:01:30,000
you new podcasts that you’re setting up
1751
01:01:30,000 –> 01:01:31,799
which I I remember you talking about it
1752
01:01:31,799 –> 01:01:33,299
earlier this year and I was excited for
1753
01:01:33,299 –> 01:01:35,339
you going yeah do it yeah yeah just go
1754
01:01:35,339 –> 01:01:37,079
and do it don’t talk about it that’s
1755
01:01:37,079 –> 01:01:38,640
what I learned so it is what I did yeah
1756
01:01:38,640 –> 01:01:41,280
so I meet new people and it’s only going
1757
01:01:41,280 –> 01:01:43,079
to get bigger and better as you get uh
1758
01:01:43,079 –> 01:01:45,119
you know well you want this is your
1759
01:01:45,119 –> 01:01:46,559
third one you said yeah yeah and but
1760
01:01:46,559 –> 01:01:47,900
that’s what I’m saying once you get 15
1761
01:01:47,900 –> 01:01:50,819
16 17 you know your sister and what
1762
01:01:50,819 –> 01:01:52,500
you’re doing and get some bigger names
1763
01:01:52,500 –> 01:01:57,079
than me on here that won’t be hard
1764
01:01:58,799 –> 01:02:01,079
champion of with the ladies and Champion
1765
01:02:01,079 –> 01:02:03,660
with a man in one season the national
1766
01:02:03,660 –> 01:02:06,079
champions
1767
01:02:06,079 –> 01:02:08,839
as well yeah that’s great
1768
01:02:08,839 –> 01:02:11,400
because she had this very nice yeah the
1769
01:02:11,400 –> 01:02:13,050
sound board
1770
01:02:13,050 –> 01:02:13,930
[Music]
1771
01:02:13,930 –> 01:02:15,630
[Laughter]
1772
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[Applause]
1773
01:02:17,660 –> 01:02:19,680
I look forward to the day that someone
1774
01:02:19,680 –> 01:02:21,240
does do it well I don’t know who the
1775
01:02:21,240 –> 01:02:22,859
Knicks coach is that is able to do it
1776
01:02:22,859 –> 01:02:24,540
because well for starters you have to be
1777
01:02:24,540 –> 01:02:26,280
able to be willing to take on two teams
1778
01:02:26,280 –> 01:02:28,200
but that was one of the reasons why I
1779
01:02:28,200 –> 01:02:30,660
did do it because I was like it’s insane
1780
01:02:30,660 –> 01:02:33,720
nobody’s gonna do it anymore no you
1781
01:02:33,720 –> 01:02:35,460
never say never it’s just um it’s one
1782
01:02:35,460 –> 01:02:36,599
thing to try and do it but it’s like
1783
01:02:36,599 –> 01:02:39,119
having the capability to do it yeah so
1784
01:02:39,119 –> 01:02:40,920
this was a kind of a highlight of your
1785
01:02:40,920 –> 01:02:42,780
life I guess but what is the biggest
1786
01:02:42,780 –> 01:02:44,940
accomplishment that you had in uh in
1787
01:02:44,940 –> 01:02:48,660
your sports career for now is it’s a
1788
01:02:48,660 –> 01:02:52,859
good one uh non-softball wise is playing
1789
01:02:52,859 –> 01:02:55,980
for my country in Aussie rules uh it’s
1790
01:02:55,980 –> 01:02:57,240
just oh yeah sorry that’s another sport
1791
01:02:57,240 –> 01:02:58,740
I used to play Aussie rules and when I
1792
01:02:58,740 –> 01:03:00,900
moved to Country New South Wales I used
1793
01:03:00,900 –> 01:03:02,280
to playground I used to grow up playing
1794
01:03:02,280 –> 01:03:03,960
rugby league but then I also played
1795
01:03:03,960 –> 01:03:07,140
Aussie roles and I’m sorry uh you have
1796
01:03:07,140 –> 01:03:08,760
to explain it it’s a bit similar to
1797
01:03:08,760 –> 01:03:10,920
Gaelic football you know they but we
1798
01:03:10,920 –> 01:03:12,900
play with a rugby ball and it’s yeah I’m
1799
01:03:12,900 –> 01:03:15,000
not gonna explain this too much sorry
1800
01:03:15,000 –> 01:03:16,920
Google it just Google AFL
1801
01:03:16,920 –> 01:03:19,260
um Australian Rules Football but it’s a
1802
01:03:19,260 –> 01:03:21,059
sport that I used to play
1803
01:03:21,059 –> 01:03:24,480
a lot it was it’s a pretty tough sport
1804
01:03:24,480 –> 01:03:26,640
to play I didn’t deal out any of the
1805
01:03:26,640 –> 01:03:28,020
damage I was the one that had the damage
1806
01:03:28,020 –> 01:03:29,940
done to me but I was a skill player so
1807
01:03:29,940 –> 01:03:31,200
as long as I could take the hits then
1808
01:03:31,200 –> 01:03:32,700
eventually you get to enjoy it
1809
01:03:32,700 –> 01:03:33,900
afterwards
1810
01:03:33,900 –> 01:03:35,520
um so that was a big highlight softball
1811
01:03:35,520 –> 01:03:36,680
wise
1812
01:03:36,680 –> 01:03:38,819
uh probably coaching in a men’s and
1813
01:03:38,819 –> 01:03:42,359
women’s World Series so got had the
1814
01:03:42,359 –> 01:03:44,099
opportunity to coach Great Britain with
1815
01:03:44,099 –> 01:03:46,220
the men in 2013
1816
01:03:46,220 –> 01:03:48,720
and also had the opportunity to go with
1817
01:03:48,720 –> 01:03:51,720
the Dutch woman in 2016.
1818
01:03:51,720 –> 01:03:54,839
so to be able to go to both the men’s
1819
01:03:54,839 –> 01:03:57,240
and a women’s world series is pretty
1820
01:03:57,240 –> 01:04:00,839
cool get to experience you know it’s and
1821
01:04:00,839 –> 01:04:03,540
for New Zealand you did the under 23
1822
01:04:03,540 –> 01:04:05,579
yeah as the head coach down to 23s for a
1823
01:04:05,579 –> 01:04:06,720
couple years we went to the Canada Cup
1824
01:04:06,720 –> 01:04:08,220
and obviously with covert we were
1825
01:04:08,220 –> 01:04:11,280
restricted and then I got asked to jump
1826
01:04:11,280 –> 01:04:13,380
on board to be the assistant coach of
1827
01:04:13,380 –> 01:04:15,059
the women’s team and to go to the
1828
01:04:15,059 –> 01:04:17,520
Olympic qualifier with them in Asia so
1829
01:04:17,520 –> 01:04:19,140
that was another highlight yeah and we
1830
01:04:19,140 –> 01:04:20,520
were a lot closer to qualifying that
1831
01:04:20,520 –> 01:04:22,680
what people realized but I only was with
1832
01:04:22,680 –> 01:04:24,359
them for like three four months and we
1833
01:04:24,359 –> 01:04:25,859
took on an Australian pitching coach
1834
01:04:25,859 –> 01:04:28,500
Kelly Hardy and we just had a really
1835
01:04:28,500 –> 01:04:30,180
good crack at it but we didn’t have much
1836
01:04:30,180 –> 01:04:32,579
time together and I would have loved to
1837
01:04:32,579 –> 01:04:35,339
have maybe been there well you can’t I’d
1838
01:04:35,339 –> 01:04:36,720
love to have been there a year earlier
1839
01:04:36,720 –> 01:04:38,880
all right it’s just ironic because I
1840
01:04:38,880 –> 01:04:40,920
thought I would have been after 2016
1841
01:04:40,920 –> 01:04:42,420
with the Dutch team I thought I would
1842
01:04:42,420 –> 01:04:44,339
have been going with an Olympic campaign
1843
01:04:44,339 –> 01:04:46,500
with the Dutch national team but then
1844
01:04:46,500 –> 01:04:49,200
that all just got thrown out the year
1845
01:04:49,200 –> 01:04:51,299
after that coaching unit got broken up
1846
01:04:51,299 –> 01:04:52,740
for I don’t know I still don’t know the
1847
01:04:52,740 –> 01:04:54,540
reason why to this day
1848
01:04:54,540 –> 01:04:57,359
um but yeah so to be given a late
1849
01:04:57,359 –> 01:04:59,099
opportunity to go with the New Zealand
1850
01:04:59,099 –> 01:05:00,540
team I was like this is weird because
1851
01:05:00,540 –> 01:05:03,240
you know how quick time can change is
1852
01:05:03,240 –> 01:05:04,980
that still something you admire or
1853
01:05:04,980 –> 01:05:07,260
willing to do in the future is that is
1854
01:05:07,260 –> 01:05:09,000
that one of your goals going back to New
1855
01:05:09,000 –> 01:05:11,579
Zealand trying to get into the the head
1856
01:05:11,579 –> 01:05:14,520
Squad are they apply they interviewed me
1857
01:05:14,520 –> 01:05:17,160
for it so after I the the head coach
1858
01:05:17,160 –> 01:05:19,440
stood down from the Olympic they
1859
01:05:19,440 –> 01:05:22,500
interviewed uh myself and Roman Gabriel
1860
01:05:22,500 –> 01:05:25,920
for it and Roman got it uh so I was
1861
01:05:25,920 –> 01:05:27,359
actually the first bit of rejection that
1862
01:05:27,359 –> 01:05:28,920
I’d had or the first thing I’d lost in
1863
01:05:28,920 –> 01:05:30,540
so many years I was it was actually good
1864
01:05:30,540 –> 01:05:32,520
to feel human again because I was just
1865
01:05:32,520 –> 01:05:34,020
so used to being told yes for everything
1866
01:05:34,020 –> 01:05:37,140
that uh I went for and actually told no
1867
01:05:37,140 –> 01:05:38,940
um but I actually didn’t mind either
1868
01:05:38,940 –> 01:05:40,500
because I knew that would be another
1869
01:05:40,500 –> 01:05:42,420
commitment for another two three four
1870
01:05:42,420 –> 01:05:45,480
five year cycle and then Miriam actually
1871
01:05:45,480 –> 01:05:47,579
rang me up after I just got declined
1872
01:05:47,579 –> 01:05:49,920
like a week later to say hey can you
1873
01:05:49,920 –> 01:05:52,260
please come back and Coach here and uh
1874
01:05:52,260 –> 01:05:54,900
with the lodian’s VISA declining then I
1875
01:05:54,900 –> 01:05:56,280
was like okay well yeah the opportunity
1876
01:05:56,280 –> 01:05:58,140
is there to come back and I never do
1877
01:05:58,140 –> 01:05:59,880
anything twice this is the first time
1878
01:05:59,880 –> 01:06:01,559
that I’ve ever come back to something
1879
01:06:01,559 –> 01:06:04,680
and push the repeat button so that was
1880
01:06:04,680 –> 01:06:06,780
new in itself pushing the repeat button
1881
01:06:06,780 –> 01:06:08,880
and you’re always wary about when you
1882
01:06:08,880 –> 01:06:10,859
leave the club in such good
1883
01:06:10,859 –> 01:06:12,480
uh stairs and in such a good position
1884
01:06:12,480 –> 01:06:15,780
where in 2018 that team that we had and
1885
01:06:15,780 –> 01:06:17,400
you know where we you know the things
1886
01:06:17,400 –> 01:06:19,859
that we were winning was uh you were
1887
01:06:19,859 –> 01:06:21,920
championed with that team right yeah in
1888
01:06:21,920 –> 01:06:24,000
2017-18 so
1889
01:06:24,000 –> 01:06:26,460
for me personally this is four years in
1890
01:06:26,460 –> 01:06:28,500
a row winning the Holland series that’s
1891
01:06:28,500 –> 01:06:30,599
awesome because I yeah because I left so
1892
01:06:30,599 –> 01:06:32,520
yeah for me personally it’s four years
1893
01:06:32,520 –> 01:06:33,720
in a row and
1894
01:06:33,720 –> 01:06:35,700
I guess the freakiest stat that I worked
1895
01:06:35,700 –> 01:06:37,079
out the other day
1896
01:06:37,079 –> 01:06:38,700
uh one of the things that I am going to
1897
01:06:38,700 –> 01:06:42,780
be proud of as I think uh in 2015 I lost
1898
01:06:42,780 –> 01:06:44,339
the Holland series to Peter Van darling
1899
01:06:44,339 –> 01:06:47,099
and then I think we’ve been in like it’s
1900
01:06:47,099 –> 01:06:51,240
either 15 16 or 17 maybe even 18. I
1901
01:06:51,240 –> 01:06:53,819
don’t know finals
1902
01:06:53,819 –> 01:06:56,280
and we’ve won all of them in a row
1903
01:06:56,280 –> 01:06:57,660
yeah don’t get me wrong we’ve lost
1904
01:06:57,660 –> 01:06:59,039
tournaments like you know we’ve come
1905
01:06:59,039 –> 01:07:00,780
third and fourth but whenever we’ve been
1906
01:07:00,780 –> 01:07:01,880
in a final
1907
01:07:01,880 –> 01:07:04,980
uh like the 15 16 finals we’ve been and
1908
01:07:04,980 –> 01:07:06,660
we’ve won all of them that’s amazing oh
1909
01:07:06,660 –> 01:07:08,579
like I had to check it because I was
1910
01:07:08,579 –> 01:07:09,720
like you know what the first thing that
1911
01:07:09,720 –> 01:07:11,460
comes in my mind now
1912
01:07:11,460 –> 01:07:13,020
it’s mindset
1913
01:07:13,020 –> 01:07:16,559
yes playing finals uh what I was taught
1914
01:07:16,559 –> 01:07:19,200
growing up in baseball softball is you
1915
01:07:19,200 –> 01:07:21,599
need to learn how to win
1916
01:07:21,599 –> 01:07:23,640
that’s that’s that’s a little small to
1917
01:07:23,640 –> 01:07:25,619
say yeah but that’s the mentality you
1918
01:07:25,619 –> 01:07:27,780
need to win a final and for me
1919
01:07:27,780 –> 01:07:30,420
personally I’ve never that great of a
1920
01:07:30,420 –> 01:07:32,339
player to be able to actually own or
1921
01:07:32,339 –> 01:07:35,160
dominate a final but I was always one of
1922
01:07:35,160 –> 01:07:36,839
the guys starting a final or whatever
1923
01:07:36,839 –> 01:07:38,940
and I can tell you one thing the mindset
1924
01:07:38,940 –> 01:07:40,980
was always good yeah unless we need to
1925
01:07:40,980 –> 01:07:42,960
learn to win we spend time on that and
1926
01:07:42,960 –> 01:07:44,220
we do it from the beginning of the
1927
01:07:44,220 –> 01:07:46,260
Season actually like we told we speak to
1928
01:07:46,260 –> 01:07:47,640
the girls and say well I said to the men
1929
01:07:47,640 –> 01:07:49,500
as well like this is what we want where
1930
01:07:49,500 –> 01:07:50,400
do we want to be at the end of the
1931
01:07:50,400 –> 01:07:51,900
season and I told him and I actually
1932
01:07:51,900 –> 01:07:53,579
brought the girls part into it I said I
1933
01:07:53,579 –> 01:07:55,020
want us to be champions of the premiere
1934
01:07:55,020 –> 01:07:56,579
cup and we want to win both and we’re
1935
01:07:56,579 –> 01:07:57,780
trying to do something that’s never been
1936
01:07:57,780 –> 01:07:59,579
done before but the guys knew right from
1937
01:07:59,579 –> 01:08:01,500
the outset that that’s the end goal and
1938
01:08:01,500 –> 01:08:02,940
what do we need to be and I would
1939
01:08:02,940 –> 01:08:05,099
constantly be updating them every other
1940
01:08:05,099 –> 01:08:08,039
training session where where we sit well
1941
01:08:08,039 –> 01:08:10,380
we have to do what are the rules this is
1942
01:08:10,380 –> 01:08:12,180
what happens in final Series so no stone
1943
01:08:12,180 –> 01:08:14,700
was left unturned they knew and there
1944
01:08:14,700 –> 01:08:15,660
were some of the guys were like let’s
1945
01:08:15,660 –> 01:08:16,560
just win everything it’s like it doesn’t
1946
01:08:16,560 –> 01:08:18,299
work like that it’s like you can’t you
1947
01:08:18,299 –> 01:08:19,939
know you are going to get beat at times
1948
01:08:19,939 –> 01:08:22,198
actually it was mind blowing because
1949
01:08:22,198 –> 01:08:25,198
every time every C every training and
1950
01:08:25,198 –> 01:08:27,179
every game after the game he know
1951
01:08:27,179 –> 01:08:29,520
exactly what we’re positioned about in
1952
01:08:29,520 –> 01:08:32,160
the competition and what we had to do to
1953
01:08:32,160 –> 01:08:34,759
accomplish a goal that we said it was
1954
01:08:34,759 –> 01:08:37,319
mind-blowing well it actually helps you
1955
01:08:37,319 –> 01:08:40,319
know if if you have a proper coach and
1956
01:08:40,319 –> 01:08:43,738
proper time because I understand that a
1957
01:08:43,738 –> 01:08:45,960
lot of coaches are doing it for a couple
1958
01:08:45,960 –> 01:08:48,899
hours a week and I I don’t unders I
1959
01:08:48,899 –> 01:08:51,120
don’t get it if you want to be committed
1960
01:08:51,120 –> 01:08:54,120
to something and maybe that’s because we
1961
01:08:54,120 –> 01:08:57,660
don’t have like wages for coaches uh in
1962
01:08:57,660 –> 01:09:00,719
in softball or youth to be how do you
1963
01:09:00,719 –> 01:09:01,380
say
1964
01:09:01,380 –> 01:09:02,520
um
1965
01:09:02,520 –> 01:09:05,160
yeah most of the coaches in youth are a
1966
01:09:05,160 –> 01:09:08,580
parent or somebody who used to play when
1967
01:09:08,580 –> 01:09:10,319
he was younger and he was to make a
1968
01:09:10,319 –> 01:09:12,779
commitment like the the podcast we had
1969
01:09:12,779 –> 01:09:15,299
here before uh with Mike this work and
1970
01:09:15,299 –> 01:09:17,698
Peter those were guys who actually lost
1971
01:09:17,698 –> 01:09:21,000
the game and loved the sport went to a
1972
01:09:21,000 –> 01:09:23,580
training and they were both like oh okay
1973
01:09:23,580 –> 01:09:26,219
well I’m new in town uh can I help you
1974
01:09:26,219 –> 01:09:27,899
guys out I have a little bit of
1975
01:09:27,899 –> 01:09:30,420
knowledge of the game I am enthusiastic
1976
01:09:30,420 –> 01:09:33,420
to to to teach and that’s how they came
1977
01:09:33,420 –> 01:09:35,520
into the sports you know and if you have
1978
01:09:35,520 –> 01:09:37,979
like like in your position you have all
1979
01:09:37,979 –> 01:09:40,679
the time in a day and I understand
1980
01:09:40,679 –> 01:09:43,259
that’s still hard work and laid out but
1981
01:09:43,259 –> 01:09:44,759
if you have time to think about where
1982
01:09:44,759 –> 01:09:46,979
you are where you want to be how to get
1983
01:09:46,979 –> 01:09:48,120
there
1984
01:09:48,120 –> 01:09:50,759
um which what do I need which what is
1985
01:09:50,759 –> 01:09:53,460
the plan and if you can point that out
1986
01:09:53,460 –> 01:09:55,739
for yourself and for your team I think
1987
01:09:55,739 –> 01:09:58,560
that is worth more than your wage in
1988
01:09:58,560 –> 01:10:01,500
Gold 100 yeah you’re 100 right and I
1989
01:10:01,500 –> 01:10:03,480
know the other coaches have nine to five
1990
01:10:03,480 –> 01:10:04,920
jobs and you know then they have to go
1991
01:10:04,920 –> 01:10:07,440
and do training for two three hours
1992
01:10:07,440 –> 01:10:09,179
um but that’s another one of my sayings
1993
01:10:09,179 –> 01:10:10,620
that’s not my problem
1994
01:10:10,620 –> 01:10:13,020
true it’s you know it’s it’s uh it’s a
1995
01:10:13,020 –> 01:10:15,540
big Advantage it’s a huge Advantage yeah
1996
01:10:15,540 –> 01:10:18,960
um and there’s no guarantees but maybe
1997
01:10:18,960 –> 01:10:20,219
that is the little bit of the edge
1998
01:10:20,219 –> 01:10:22,140
that’s needed to get you over the line I
1999
01:10:22,140 –> 01:10:23,460
have no idea I don’t know what the other
2000
01:10:23,460 –> 01:10:25,440
teams are doing so I can’t comment
2001
01:10:25,440 –> 01:10:26,699
um all I can do is just look at our
2002
01:10:26,699 –> 01:10:28,260
record of what we’ve done over the you
2003
01:10:28,260 –> 01:10:29,760
know body of work that we’ve had with
2004
01:10:29,760 –> 01:10:32,580
the team and uh look at the end of the
2005
01:10:32,580 –> 01:10:34,260
day statistics don’t lie over a long
2006
01:10:34,260 –> 01:10:36,780
term so you know if it is hitting 400
2007
01:10:36,780 –> 01:10:38,699
ahead is hitting 400 you can complain
2008
01:10:38,699 –> 01:10:40,140
about one or two games but when you have
2009
01:10:40,140 –> 01:10:42,420
a 36 Game season yeah you can’t complain
2010
01:10:42,420 –> 01:10:44,940
with the 120 batting average you know
2011
01:10:44,940 –> 01:10:47,520
you can complain of a bad Strike Zone
2012
01:10:47,520 –> 01:10:49,320
for one day but you can’t complain over
2013
01:10:49,320 –> 01:10:51,540
the vampires aren’t that bad not for 36
2014
01:10:51,540 –> 01:10:53,040
games well you’re a pitcher you might
2015
01:10:53,040 –> 01:10:55,219
disagree but
2016
01:10:55,219 –> 01:10:59,159
I’ve agreed it disagreed a lot over the
2017
01:10:59,159 –> 01:11:01,679
years but yeah you know then again last
2018
01:11:01,679 –> 01:11:03,780
last podcast with Mike we have a little
2019
01:11:03,780 –> 01:11:06,300
bit chat about statistics yeah and
2020
01:11:06,300 –> 01:11:08,040
statistics he wasn’t believing it he
2021
01:11:08,040 –> 01:11:09,780
didn’t believe in statistics it was more
2022
01:11:09,780 –> 01:11:13,380
about feeling because for example if
2023
01:11:13,380 –> 01:11:15,540
your guy is hitting bombs and land race
2024
01:11:15,540 –> 01:11:18,420
and and they all get caught by short and
2025
01:11:18,420 –> 01:11:19,500
whatever
2026
01:11:19,500 –> 01:11:22,500
the guy’s on the ball but his statistics
2027
01:11:22,500 –> 01:11:24,420
will say okay so here’s one of my
2028
01:11:24,420 –> 01:11:26,640
philosophies so here we go there we go
2029
01:11:26,640 –> 01:11:28,980
yeah Mike listen I agree with that but
2030
01:11:28,980 –> 01:11:30,540
also disagree a little bit as well all
2031
01:11:30,540 –> 01:11:33,300
right so softball to me this is one of
2032
01:11:33,300 –> 01:11:34,739
the things I tell people
2033
01:11:34,739 –> 01:11:38,040
is nothing but mathematics plus human
2034
01:11:38,040 –> 01:11:39,500
intuition
2035
01:11:39,500 –> 01:11:42,960
so that’s the extra yeah it’s the two
2036
01:11:42,960 –> 01:11:45,060
it’s well mathematics is statistics
2037
01:11:45,060 –> 01:11:47,340
right yes so it’s nothing but statistics
2038
01:11:47,340 –> 01:11:49,980
plus human intuition so you give me a
2039
01:11:49,980 –> 01:11:51,900
whole bunch of stats and then that’s it
2040
01:11:51,900 –> 01:11:53,040
but then you need to go and know the
2041
01:11:53,040 –> 01:11:54,840
player behind that and work out who can
2042
01:11:54,840 –> 01:11:56,820
work Under Pressure who can’t because
2043
01:11:56,820 –> 01:11:59,880
there’s two games within the game but um
2044
01:11:59,880 –> 01:12:01,679
come on man you can’t tell me that if he
2045
01:12:01,679 –> 01:12:03,480
looks at the stats and uh they’ve both
2046
01:12:03,480 –> 01:12:05,460
had 100 at bets each and one player is
2047
01:12:05,460 –> 01:12:07,679
hitting 400 and one’s taking 130 you
2048
01:12:07,679 –> 01:12:09,120
know what are you gonna do okay maybe if
2049
01:12:09,120 –> 01:12:11,280
that guy can hit 130 Under Pressure then
2050
01:12:11,280 –> 01:12:13,320
yeah you may pick the 130 player but you
2051
01:12:13,320 –> 01:12:14,880
know that 500 player you’d have to think
2052
01:12:14,880 –> 01:12:16,560
that you know he’s got there or she’s
2053
01:12:16,560 –> 01:12:17,880
got there because they actually know how
2054
01:12:17,880 –> 01:12:20,699
to play the game but uh yeah stats can
2055
01:12:20,699 –> 01:12:22,739
be misleading but then that’s up to you
2056
01:12:22,739 –> 01:12:24,060
as the coach to be able to read between
2057
01:12:24,060 –> 01:12:26,100
the lines you know if one player got
2058
01:12:26,100 –> 01:12:27,960
that 250 300 batting average because
2059
01:12:27,960 –> 01:12:29,460
they went four for four against the
2060
01:12:29,460 –> 01:12:31,380
bottom two teams and you know when eight
2061
01:12:31,380 –> 01:12:32,940
for eight then that’s up to you to read
2062
01:12:32,940 –> 01:12:34,620
that subtract that from there and go
2063
01:12:34,620 –> 01:12:36,120
okay then what did they do against the
2064
01:12:36,120 –> 01:12:38,520
top three teams oh over three over three
2065
01:12:38,520 –> 01:12:40,679
one for four so yeah okay one for ten
2066
01:12:40,679 –> 01:12:42,060
but you’ll find most players like that
2067
01:12:42,060 –> 01:12:43,320
but that’s why you need your special
2068
01:12:43,320 –> 01:12:44,640
players that’s why you need your Jesse
2069
01:12:44,640 –> 01:12:47,040
varnell’s your Muriel of locals you know
2070
01:12:47,040 –> 01:12:48,420
you bring the beers because they’re the
2071
01:12:48,420 –> 01:12:49,860
ones that will only go one foot four or
2072
01:12:49,860 –> 01:12:51,659
two for four and do the special things
2073
01:12:51,659 –> 01:12:53,460
and hitters seven eight nine you know
2074
01:12:53,460 –> 01:12:55,500
we’ll be lucky if they get one hit
2075
01:12:55,500 –> 01:12:56,940
um that’s why another one of my mantras
2076
01:12:56,940 –> 01:12:58,260
is special players must do special
2077
01:12:58,260 –> 01:13:00,420
things that’s nothing new that’s
2078
01:13:00,420 –> 01:13:02,460
um taken out of Jose Mourinho Jose
2079
01:13:02,460 –> 01:13:03,960
Mourinho man if you’re on the big bucks
2080
01:13:03,960 –> 01:13:05,520
yeah you got to do the special things
2081
01:13:05,520 –> 01:13:06,780
that’s the reason why you get paid the
2082
01:13:06,780 –> 01:13:08,219
money yeah um it’s the same with your
2083
01:13:08,219 –> 01:13:09,360
players if you’re from the national team
2084
01:13:09,360 –> 01:13:10,860
then yeah when it comes to the business
2085
01:13:10,860 –> 01:13:13,020
end of the season then it’s your job to
2086
01:13:13,020 –> 01:13:14,640
get In Those runs don’t look at Hitler
2087
01:13:14,640 –> 01:13:15,900
seven eight nine they’re not in your
2088
01:13:15,900 –> 01:13:18,840
national team so uh yeah it’s but I
2089
01:13:18,840 –> 01:13:20,280
understand where he’s coming from but no
2090
01:13:20,280 –> 01:13:22,560
it’s just uh get your stats and put the
2091
01:13:22,560 –> 01:13:25,800
human intuition involved and he should
2092
01:13:25,800 –> 01:13:27,179
be able to get it wrong right yeah we’ll
2093
01:13:27,179 –> 01:13:29,400
take that away yeah another question as
2094
01:13:29,400 –> 01:13:32,040
well so maybe just to take away this
2095
01:13:32,040 –> 01:13:35,600
question and uh together
2096
01:13:35,699 –> 01:13:39,960
um so what I reckon this year was that
2097
01:13:39,960 –> 01:13:45,260
um in so so what I um
2098
01:13:51,980 –> 01:13:55,260
oh yeah noticed so what I noticed this
2099
01:13:55,260 –> 01:13:55,980
year
2100
01:13:55,980 –> 01:13:57,659
was that it was a lot of difference
2101
01:13:57,659 –> 01:13:59,880
between the other coaches that I had the
2102
01:13:59,880 –> 01:14:02,640
years before there is that you’re uh
2103
01:14:02,640 –> 01:14:06,239
like uh a really positive coach and that
2104
01:14:06,239 –> 01:14:08,340
you don’t really address the negative
2105
01:14:08,340 –> 01:14:11,460
things but only the positive things for
2106
01:14:11,460 –> 01:14:15,600
yeah most of the times but yeah don’t
2107
01:14:15,600 –> 01:14:18,239
you don’t you get like then uh filter
2108
01:14:18,239 –> 01:14:20,520
out fifty percent of all the things that
2109
01:14:20,520 –> 01:14:21,600
you can
2110
01:14:21,600 –> 01:14:23,820
can communicate
2111
01:14:23,820 –> 01:14:28,020
I get angry oh you get angry uh yeah but
2112
01:14:28,020 –> 01:14:31,080
the first question I ask myself each and
2113
01:14:31,080 –> 01:14:33,000
every time is
2114
01:14:33,000 –> 01:14:34,980
uh is this going to make the team better
2115
01:14:34,980 –> 01:14:37,920
if I say what I really think and 95
2116
01:14:37,920 –> 01:14:41,460
times out of 100 probably now yeah it
2117
01:14:41,460 –> 01:14:43,080
ain’t gonna help so if it isn’t going to
2118
01:14:43,080 –> 01:14:44,280
help the team what’s the what’s the
2119
01:14:44,280 –> 01:14:46,020
point of pointing out something that
2120
01:14:46,020 –> 01:14:47,880
they’ve done wrong what you can do
2121
01:14:47,880 –> 01:14:49,920
though and that’s why I have my book is
2122
01:14:49,920 –> 01:14:52,380
I write it in the book and then when I
2123
01:14:52,380 –> 01:14:53,100
finish
2124
01:14:53,100 –> 01:14:55,440
and we go to the bar I’ll have a quiet
2125
01:14:55,440 –> 01:14:57,780
word one-on-one and if there’s a problem
2126
01:14:57,780 –> 01:15:00,000
then I’ll address it you know to the guy
2127
01:15:00,000 –> 01:15:01,920
and say hey why did you do this you
2128
01:15:01,920 –> 01:15:03,719
should have done that and then if they
2129
01:15:03,719 –> 01:15:05,460
give me a valid answer then I’ll go okay
2130
01:15:05,460 –> 01:15:06,900
or sometimes you have to meet in the
2131
01:15:06,900 –> 01:15:08,100
middle
2132
01:15:08,100 –> 01:15:09,420
um I had one in the Holland series final
2133
01:15:09,420 –> 01:15:12,360
actually with uh Brenda where I held up
2134
01:15:12,360 –> 01:15:16,320
Alison spearness at third and Brenda
2135
01:15:16,320 –> 01:15:18,659
just came tearing around and we got in a
2136
01:15:18,659 –> 01:15:20,880
jam and that was in the final and so we
2137
01:15:20,880 –> 01:15:22,140
talked it out and I said give me a
2138
01:15:22,140 –> 01:15:23,760
percentage how much is it was your fault
2139
01:15:23,760 –> 01:15:26,340
how much of it was mine this is uh 80 20
2140
01:15:26,340 –> 01:15:28,620
and like oh yeah 89 or 80 yours and
2141
01:15:28,620 –> 01:15:30,360
she’s like no 80 mine and I was like
2142
01:15:30,360 –> 01:15:32,219
yeah or the 20 is on me because I sort
2143
01:15:32,219 –> 01:15:34,380
of I punked I tricked her in a way but
2144
01:15:34,380 –> 01:15:35,580
she should have known that Alison I
2145
01:15:35,580 –> 01:15:37,020
wouldn’t have been sending her home but
2146
01:15:37,020 –> 01:15:38,520
you know even at a Holland series final
2147
01:15:38,520 –> 01:15:40,199
we’re still discussing after we’ve just
2148
01:15:40,199 –> 01:15:41,280
won all in Syria we should be
2149
01:15:41,280 –> 01:15:43,080
celebrating it but here we are sitting
2150
01:15:43,080 –> 01:15:43,980
there
2151
01:15:43,980 –> 01:15:45,719
not arguing but like we’re still
2152
01:15:45,719 –> 01:15:47,219
discussing all right well what do we get
2153
01:15:47,219 –> 01:15:48,780
wrong this is after we’ve just won a
2154
01:15:48,780 –> 01:15:49,920
championship like that’s how
2155
01:15:49,920 –> 01:15:51,719
perfectionist we are that’s the passion
2156
01:15:51,719 –> 01:15:53,159
yeah and getting everything right well
2157
01:15:53,159 –> 01:15:55,199
because I feel bad because you know am I
2158
01:15:55,199 –> 01:15:56,880
hang her out to dry or you know who’s
2159
01:15:56,880 –> 01:15:58,920
but we talk it out work it out and move
2160
01:15:58,920 –> 01:16:01,260
on with it but if if we had got angry at
2161
01:16:01,260 –> 01:16:02,400
each other
2162
01:16:02,400 –> 01:16:04,260
if we had been yelling and spewing at
2163
01:16:04,260 –> 01:16:06,060
each other we still had three outs to
2164
01:16:06,060 –> 01:16:08,100
get to win the game that was only the
2165
01:16:08,100 –> 01:16:10,320
bottom of the six where we made that
2166
01:16:10,320 –> 01:16:13,020
stuff up not I not her we made that
2167
01:16:13,020 –> 01:16:14,820
stuff up but we still had three outs to
2168
01:16:14,820 –> 01:16:17,040
get and Allison was huffing and puffing
2169
01:16:17,040 –> 01:16:19,440
because her Fitness was no longer there
2170
01:16:19,440 –> 01:16:21,600
but we’d plan to bring Jesse in for the
2171
01:16:21,600 –> 01:16:24,300
seventh anyway for two hitters but uh
2172
01:16:24,300 –> 01:16:26,400
yeah like it’s just at some point
2173
01:16:26,400 –> 01:16:28,140
there’s just no use arguing there’s a
2174
01:16:28,140 –> 01:16:29,820
time and place to get it right and it’s
2175
01:16:29,820 –> 01:16:31,620
not baseball baseball they sort of you
2176
01:16:31,620 –> 01:16:33,060
know ride up in each other’s faces and
2177
01:16:33,060 –> 01:16:34,500
like give it to each other but their
2178
01:16:34,500 –> 01:16:37,440
their athletes worth millions that’s the
2179
01:16:37,440 –> 01:16:38,880
reason that’s the reason why we are
2180
01:16:38,880 –> 01:16:40,920
addressing this
2181
01:16:40,920 –> 01:16:44,520
um because we do youth like b-ball and
2182
01:16:44,520 –> 01:16:48,120
now soccer on the 12th and as a coach I
2183
01:16:48,120 –> 01:16:52,320
noticed that I can get more out of the
2184
01:16:52,320 –> 01:16:56,159
the kits when I’m saying hey uh good job
2185
01:16:56,159 –> 01:16:58,620
on this but next time try to do that a
2186
01:16:58,620 –> 01:17:00,780
little bit better or they make a huge
2187
01:17:00,780 –> 01:17:02,159
error they pick up the ball and they
2188
01:17:02,159 –> 01:17:05,699
throw role at first and it’s perfect but
2189
01:17:05,699 –> 01:17:07,560
the runner is already on the way to
2190
01:17:07,560 –> 01:17:09,659
second I go like oh yeah hell of a throw
2191
01:17:09,659 –> 01:17:13,500
that’s amazing good recovery so I’m not
2192
01:17:13,500 –> 01:17:16,020
trying to highlight the negative I’m
2193
01:17:16,020 –> 01:17:19,380
highlight the positive and what we had
2194
01:17:19,380 –> 01:17:21,140
in the podcast before
2195
01:17:21,140 –> 01:17:23,580
especially the difference between like
2196
01:17:23,580 –> 01:17:26,840
softball and baseball in baseball we
2197
01:17:26,840 –> 01:17:29,120
played baseball as well
2198
01:17:29,120 –> 01:17:31,739
ever guys yes so maybe that’s the
2199
01:17:31,739 –> 01:17:33,480
difference I have to ask you and for
2200
01:17:33,480 –> 01:17:35,699
your answer on that but boys will be
2201
01:17:35,699 –> 01:17:38,580
boys there will be well amazing if you
2202
01:17:38,580 –> 01:17:40,800
throw that ball from short to First with
2203
01:17:40,800 –> 01:17:43,980
a hundred mile an hour and the runner is
2204
01:17:43,980 –> 01:17:46,020
safe by inches
2205
01:17:46,020 –> 01:17:49,920
you’re gonna get peep you gotta get some
2206
01:17:49,920 –> 01:17:53,280
[ __ ] over it yeah you know yep so
2207
01:17:53,280 –> 01:17:55,560
the one thing I’ll say when it comes to
2208
01:17:55,560 –> 01:17:58,440
coaching the youth uh especially if
2209
01:17:58,440 –> 01:17:59,760
we’re talking about positivity and
2210
01:17:59,760 –> 01:18:01,380
keeping it positive yeah another thing
2211
01:18:01,380 –> 01:18:03,840
you can do is you can let them know when
2212
01:18:03,840 –> 01:18:05,880
they’ve done something wrong still in a
2213
01:18:05,880 –> 01:18:07,320
positive light and that is by being
2214
01:18:07,320 –> 01:18:09,540
animated with your body
2215
01:18:09,540 –> 01:18:11,280
all right so when there’s a mistake made
2216
01:18:11,280 –> 01:18:13,380
it’s you know you can either yell at
2217
01:18:13,380 –> 01:18:15,300
them verbally you know they go no you
2218
01:18:15,300 –> 01:18:16,679
messed up your throat but you can also
2219
01:18:16,679 –> 01:18:18,000
do something with I don’t know if
2220
01:18:18,000 –> 01:18:19,500
there’s cameras on here but you can sit
2221
01:18:19,500 –> 01:18:21,120
there and like look at your play and go
2222
01:18:21,120 –> 01:18:23,040
ah and then like put your hands on as if
2223
01:18:23,040 –> 01:18:24,659
to say you know that’s Universal support
2224
01:18:24,659 –> 01:18:26,699
you messed up but if you’re doing it
2225
01:18:26,699 –> 01:18:28,440
smiling and going ah you know just throw
2226
01:18:28,440 –> 01:18:29,640
your hands up in the air like I don’t
2227
01:18:29,640 –> 01:18:30,659
care but if you could do those quick
2228
01:18:30,659 –> 01:18:32,340
actions the kid’s gonna look at you
2229
01:18:32,340 –> 01:18:33,900
again oh I’ve messed up haven’t I you’re
2230
01:18:33,900 –> 01:18:35,520
like you’re like oh yeah and he’s like
2231
01:18:35,520 –> 01:18:37,440
don’t worry about it you know and just
2232
01:18:37,440 –> 01:18:39,239
you know but you can do all that rather
2233
01:18:39,239 –> 01:18:40,560
than just you know what are you doing
2234
01:18:40,560 –> 01:18:42,540
you know you just sit there smile and go
2235
01:18:42,540 –> 01:18:44,280
oh no you just shaking it’s like you’re
2236
01:18:44,280 –> 01:18:45,659
gonna just like ah get off the field
2237
01:18:45,659 –> 01:18:46,920
you’ll you know but you don’t sit there
2238
01:18:46,920 –> 01:18:48,060
and go what are you doing you’re useless
2239
01:18:48,060 –> 01:18:49,699
you can sit there and do it in a fun
2240
01:18:49,699 –> 01:18:51,840
positive way and then when you get off
2241
01:18:51,840 –> 01:18:54,719
into the Dugout saying hey what did you
2242
01:18:54,719 –> 01:18:55,980
do you know what should you do next time
2243
01:18:55,980 –> 01:18:57,179
I should have done that and if they can
2244
01:18:57,179 –> 01:18:58,440
correct it and you extract it from
2245
01:18:58,440 –> 01:19:00,239
themselves you’re like yeah okay so next
2246
01:19:00,239 –> 01:19:02,340
time just make sure you do that and the
2247
01:19:02,340 –> 01:19:04,380
way I um coach up with the kids I’ve
2248
01:19:04,380 –> 01:19:06,000
said this I don’t do this in all of my
2249
01:19:06,000 –> 01:19:07,380
when I’m back home in New Zealand and
2250
01:19:07,380 –> 01:19:08,580
I’m coaching the coaches how to coach
2251
01:19:08,580 –> 01:19:10,320
because that was my job in Great Britain
2252
01:19:10,320 –> 01:19:11,580
and in New Zealand was coaching the
2253
01:19:11,580 –> 01:19:13,679
coaches South coach I’d always say look
2254
01:19:13,679 –> 01:19:15,600
softball and baseball for the kids is
2255
01:19:15,600 –> 01:19:17,159
just like learning your six times tables
2256
01:19:17,159 –> 01:19:19,440
or your five times tables like you know
2257
01:19:19,440 –> 01:19:21,420
your six times tables right mathematics
2258
01:19:21,420 –> 01:19:24,179
are you asking me now to do it but you
2259
01:19:24,179 –> 01:19:25,199
know you know you’re five times table
2260
01:19:25,199 –> 01:19:27,179
yeah right I’m like softball’s like that
2261
01:19:27,179 –> 01:19:29,340
we all get there eventually but when
2262
01:19:29,340 –> 01:19:31,020
you’re learning as a kid you know when
2263
01:19:31,020 –> 01:19:33,060
you get given it and you go home and
2264
01:19:33,060 –> 01:19:34,860
then there’s a that one smart ass kid
2265
01:19:34,860 –> 01:19:36,120
that already knows it straight away
2266
01:19:36,120 –> 01:19:38,040
already and already knows their seven
2267
01:19:38,040 –> 01:19:39,420
times tables you’re like what we haven’t
2268
01:19:39,420 –> 01:19:40,920
even learned the seven times tables yet
2269
01:19:40,920 –> 01:19:42,540
you know there’s some kids that are just
2270
01:19:42,540 –> 01:19:44,100
going to be able to learn it but we talk
2271
01:19:44,100 –> 01:19:46,080
about how much our game is repetition it
2272
01:19:46,080 –> 01:19:48,300
is a game is a game of repetition but
2273
01:19:48,300 –> 01:19:50,100
the difference is some kids can learn
2274
01:19:50,100 –> 01:19:51,780
immediately yeah you give them their six
2275
01:19:51,780 –> 01:19:53,159
times tables they know straight away and
2276
01:19:53,159 –> 01:19:54,239
they’ll go on to their seven times
2277
01:19:54,239 –> 01:19:56,580
tables where some kids are like oh they
2278
01:19:56,580 –> 01:19:58,440
need like three four days to learn
2279
01:19:58,440 –> 01:20:00,420
they’re five times tables they’re a bit
2280
01:20:00,420 –> 01:20:02,699
behind or you know so when they do make
2281
01:20:02,699 –> 01:20:04,320
that mistake they make it again they
2282
01:20:04,320 –> 01:20:05,880
make it again but eventually they’ll get
2283
01:20:05,880 –> 01:20:07,560
it right just sometimes it takes them
2284
01:20:07,560 –> 01:20:09,120
three four times to get it wrong and
2285
01:20:09,120 –> 01:20:10,980
finally enough it’s the kid that has the
2286
01:20:10,980 –> 01:20:12,540
baseballing softballing parents that
2287
01:20:12,540 –> 01:20:14,100
usually doesn’t even do it wrong the
2288
01:20:14,100 –> 01:20:15,300
first time they already know how to get
2289
01:20:15,300 –> 01:20:16,920
it right but the main thing is is that
2290
01:20:16,920 –> 01:20:18,420
you sit there and be patient with them
2291
01:20:18,420 –> 01:20:20,100
and understand that sometimes it’s going
2292
01:20:20,100 –> 01:20:21,960
to take longer it’s going to take longer
2293
01:20:21,960 –> 01:20:23,880
it’s frustrating when you’re a coach but
2294
01:20:23,880 –> 01:20:25,560
then there’s nice ways that you can go
2295
01:20:25,560 –> 01:20:27,239
about it and getting that kid to learn
2296
01:20:27,239 –> 01:20:30,420
yeah and again even if uh they don’t get
2297
01:20:30,420 –> 01:20:31,980
it and I’m laughing with it and I guess
2298
01:20:31,980 –> 01:20:32,880
that’s the difference between the
2299
01:20:32,880 –> 01:20:34,380
American style coaching but the
2300
01:20:34,380 –> 01:20:35,460
difference with the American style
2301
01:20:35,460 –> 01:20:37,800
coaching is their travel ball programs
2302
01:20:37,800 –> 01:20:39,840
are severe the parents are paying 5 10
2303
01:20:39,840 –> 01:20:41,880
15 grand for them to be part of elite
2304
01:20:41,880 –> 01:20:43,380
teams because that’s going to save mum
2305
01:20:43,380 –> 01:20:45,780
and dad 200 000 in free scholarships
2306
01:20:45,780 –> 01:20:47,400
when they get a free ride for their
2307
01:20:47,400 –> 01:20:49,080
baseball softball program so it’s more
2308
01:20:49,080 –> 01:20:50,340
of an investment so when they’re
2309
01:20:50,340 –> 01:20:52,440
investing those kind of amounts of money
2310
01:20:52,440 –> 01:20:55,080
yeah well yeah it’s an investment so
2311
01:20:55,080 –> 01:20:57,179
they’re going to be really harsh on that
2312
01:20:57,179 –> 01:20:58,980
but that’s one of the reasons why I love
2313
01:20:58,980 –> 01:21:00,360
being in Europe and I love being back in
2314
01:21:00,360 –> 01:21:01,860
New Zealand because I love being able to
2315
01:21:01,860 –> 01:21:04,500
live my lifestyle the way that I do
2316
01:21:04,500 –> 01:21:07,260
um without the pressure I don’t mind the
2317
01:21:07,260 –> 01:21:08,880
pressure though like I can go and do it
2318
01:21:08,880 –> 01:21:11,280
at ease yeah next I like going to
2319
01:21:11,280 –> 01:21:13,260
nightclubs and having fun well not now
2320
01:21:13,260 –> 01:21:15,360
but like you know 10 years ago and 20
2321
01:21:15,360 –> 01:21:16,739
years ago same as when I was in Great
2322
01:21:16,739 –> 01:21:18,840
Britain you know when I have to do my
2323
01:21:18,840 –> 01:21:20,460
work and Coach the national teams I do
2324
01:21:20,460 –> 01:21:21,719
but then when my private likes my
2325
01:21:21,719 –> 01:21:23,699
private life well my friends know me you
2326
01:21:23,699 –> 01:21:25,560
know I like having a good time and you
2327
01:21:25,560 –> 01:21:27,360
know going out seeing the world
2328
01:21:27,360 –> 01:21:29,040
um going to the pub and going to the
2329
01:21:29,040 –> 01:21:31,920
nightclub uh you know whereas gosh if
2330
01:21:31,920 –> 01:21:33,239
you do that in the states you’re under
2331
01:21:33,239 –> 01:21:35,100
the microscope and everything you do is
2332
01:21:35,100 –> 01:21:36,480
looked at and I’m like nah man I’d
2333
01:21:36,480 –> 01:21:38,880
rather just live my life and have an
2334
01:21:38,880 –> 01:21:41,640
easy time but uh well I’d have no
2335
01:21:41,640 –> 01:21:44,280
problem going to an NCAA school either I
2336
01:21:44,280 –> 01:21:46,679
can sit there and push the repeat button
2337
01:21:46,679 –> 01:21:48,480
and people’s people the sports and Sport
2338
01:21:48,480 –> 01:21:50,060
yeah there’s a different different
2339
01:21:50,060 –> 01:21:53,580
approach and oversee how they teach the
2340
01:21:53,580 –> 01:21:55,940
kids than we do here
2341
01:21:55,940 –> 01:21:58,320
everything you were talking about we
2342
01:21:58,320 –> 01:22:00,239
call it at least I think I call it like
2343
01:22:00,239 –> 01:22:01,800
sport wise
2344
01:22:01,800 –> 01:22:03,739
sport wisdom Sports
2345
01:22:03,739 –> 01:22:07,140
smart about the kids some some kids you
2346
01:22:07,140 –> 01:22:10,199
you teach a certain drill twice and
2347
01:22:10,199 –> 01:22:12,540
they’ll be like oh yeah they got it and
2348
01:22:12,540 –> 01:22:15,480
I was talking to Ranier a couple weeks
2349
01:22:15,480 –> 01:22:18,800
ago about uh again again
2350
01:22:18,800 –> 01:22:21,239
I don’t know where it was exactly but it
2351
01:22:21,239 –> 01:22:25,320
was like um men versus ladies we have
2352
01:22:25,320 –> 01:22:26,880
this drill
2353
01:22:26,880 –> 01:22:28,920
um we’re going to start a new drill and
2354
01:22:28,920 –> 01:22:31,320
the last couple years at agmaria we had
2355
01:22:31,320 –> 01:22:34,320
this girls uh training us Cindy
2356
01:22:34,320 –> 01:22:37,199
oh Cindy and their visa hold your horses
2357
01:22:37,199 –> 01:22:39,780
we got Cindy as well yeah there we go
2358
01:22:39,780 –> 01:22:44,100
you coached the game I definitely did
2359
01:22:44,100 –> 01:22:45,840
um before you go I would like to ask you
2360
01:22:45,840 –> 01:22:49,980
got started over Hill Court uh
2361
01:22:49,980 –> 01:22:53,580
uh no nay okay the girl Community editor
2362
01:22:53,580 –> 01:22:55,739
you can give me editor okay we have a
2363
01:22:55,739 –> 01:22:58,500
Cindy yeah you’re a famous coach known
2364
01:22:58,500 –> 01:23:01,020
to this Champion thanks and wish you all
2365
01:23:01,020 –> 01:23:02,580
the best
2366
01:23:02,580 –> 01:23:04,920
all right there we go hey so we got
2367
01:23:04,920 –> 01:23:07,739
Cindy as well here there we go
2368
01:23:07,739 –> 01:23:11,040
hasten this is Cindy first of all I want
2369
01:23:11,040 –> 01:23:12,239
to thank you a lot for sharing your
2370
01:23:12,239 –> 01:23:13,980
software knowledge with us I think the
2371
01:23:13,980 –> 01:23:15,480
Dutch softball scene has been able to
2372
01:23:15,480 –> 01:23:17,219
learn a lot about how you coach the game
2373
01:23:17,219 –> 01:23:19,739
I know I definitely did
2374
01:23:19,739 –> 01:23:21,540
um before you go I would like to ask you
2375
01:23:21,540 –> 01:23:23,460
uh two fun questions of conscience
2376
01:23:23,460 –> 01:23:26,159
actually uh one would you rather be a
2377
01:23:26,159 –> 01:23:28,860
legendary player or a legendary coach
2378
01:23:28,860 –> 01:23:31,320
second one would you rather retire as a
2379
01:23:31,320 –> 01:23:33,300
forgotten coach with a winning record or
2380
01:23:33,300 –> 01:23:34,500
a famous coach known to lose
2381
01:23:34,500 –> 01:23:36,719
championships thanks and wish you all
2382
01:23:36,719 –> 01:23:38,159
the best
2383
01:23:38,159 –> 01:23:40,140
oh that’s a tough one buddy
2384
01:23:40,140 –> 01:23:41,820
the first one’s easy
2385
01:23:41,820 –> 01:23:43,500
first question is easy
2386
01:23:43,500 –> 01:23:46,260
uh I never cared for playing too much oh
2387
01:23:46,260 –> 01:23:47,640
don’t get me wrong I did I love the game
2388
01:23:47,640 –> 01:23:50,460
and I did like playing but I’d never do
2389
01:23:50,460 –> 01:23:52,140
the extras because like I said I played
2390
01:23:52,140 –> 01:23:54,719
Aussie rules I played other touch rugby
2391
01:23:54,719 –> 01:23:57,360
uh waves Cricket yeah I played so many
2392
01:23:57,360 –> 01:23:59,340
different sports that I never focused on
2393
01:23:59,340 –> 01:24:01,199
one so I never did any extra training
2394
01:24:01,199 –> 01:24:03,600
for softball but because I had an
2395
01:24:03,600 –> 01:24:05,400
upbringing with it because of my dad I
2396
01:24:05,400 –> 01:24:07,140
knew
2397
01:24:07,140 –> 01:24:09,000
yeah you never know everything but you
2398
01:24:09,000 –> 01:24:11,940
know I knew enough yeah to get by uh so
2399
01:24:11,940 –> 01:24:14,760
definitely as a coach because
2400
01:24:14,760 –> 01:24:16,620
as a coach I’m willing to put in the
2401
01:24:16,620 –> 01:24:18,600
time into my players because they do
2402
01:24:18,600 –> 01:24:19,800
care about people
2403
01:24:19,800 –> 01:24:23,760
but as a player no so I’d rather be if
2404
01:24:23,760 –> 01:24:26,100
it’s an option a legendary coach rather
2405
01:24:26,100 –> 01:24:27,960
than a legendary player that’s an answer
2406
01:24:27,960 –> 01:24:31,560
yeah as opposed the next question uh
2407
01:24:31,560 –> 01:24:35,219
the would I rather be forgotten about
2408
01:24:35,219 –> 01:24:36,620
but when
2409
01:24:36,620 –> 01:24:39,060
because one of the things I’ve said to
2410
01:24:39,060 –> 01:24:40,980
Olympia as I was leaving I was like all
2411
01:24:40,980 –> 01:24:42,719
I want to do is be remembered you know
2412
01:24:42,719 –> 01:24:43,620
that’s the one thing that you want to do
2413
01:24:43,620 –> 01:24:44,699
you just want to make sure that you know
2414
01:24:44,699 –> 01:24:45,960
when I leave that when they’re having a
2415
01:24:45,960 –> 01:24:47,219
beer they’re like oh that was cool we
2416
01:24:47,219 –> 01:24:48,659
had to Stand Here For Those Years you
2417
01:24:48,659 –> 01:24:50,340
know and sit there going yeah he was fun
2418
01:24:50,340 –> 01:24:53,040
and enjoyed a beer and you know had a
2419
01:24:53,040 –> 01:24:54,719
good time yeah with the team
2420
01:24:54,719 –> 01:24:56,699
in saying that though I wouldn’t take it
2421
01:24:56,699 –> 01:24:58,199
at the cost of losing
2422
01:24:58,199 –> 01:24:59,940
like I said to you just before the
2423
01:24:59,940 –> 01:25:02,400
amount of finals we won in a row uh no
2424
01:25:02,400 –> 01:25:04,679
I’d rather take that and not be
2425
01:25:04,679 –> 01:25:05,780
remembered
2426
01:25:05,780 –> 01:25:08,280
and as long as everyone else gets
2427
01:25:08,280 –> 01:25:09,960
remembered yeah I don’t mind being the
2428
01:25:09,960 –> 01:25:11,580
sacrificial lamb of not being remembered
2429
01:25:11,580 –> 01:25:12,780
as long as that the players will be
2430
01:25:12,780 –> 01:25:14,820
remembered people and I still mention it
2431
01:25:14,820 –> 01:25:17,280
um Eva vortman Jeanette usting they are
2432
01:25:17,280 –> 01:25:19,380
all the start of the 2015 team they’ve
2433
01:25:19,380 –> 01:25:21,300
got this club to where they’re at uh
2434
01:25:21,300 –> 01:25:22,620
Brenda beers
2435
01:25:22,620 –> 01:25:24,780
Mario love logos Rachel invade or that
2436
01:25:24,780 –> 01:25:27,300
that nucleus there as the other players
2437
01:25:27,300 –> 01:25:29,100
and we had some good add-ons some
2438
01:25:29,100 –> 01:25:30,420
special players that came in between
2439
01:25:30,420 –> 01:25:33,420
Australians Ellen Roberts tarly Moore
2440
01:25:33,420 –> 01:25:35,640
um the Great Britain players uh polish
2441
01:25:35,640 –> 01:25:38,580
Steph Pierce Emma wo check you know
2442
01:25:38,580 –> 01:25:40,440
we’ve had sir Pauline Prada from France
2443
01:25:40,440 –> 01:25:42,900
you know uh Stephanie Toft from the
2444
01:25:42,900 –> 01:25:45,239
Gators she also helped this team in the
2445
01:25:45,239 –> 01:25:46,739
first year of showing them what it looks
2446
01:25:46,739 –> 01:25:48,060
like and you know she won the College
2447
01:25:48,060 –> 01:25:50,040
World Series there was lots of different
2448
01:25:50,040 –> 01:25:51,540
things that happened for us to get where
2449
01:25:51,540 –> 01:25:53,940
we did yeah some of it’s luck but some
2450
01:25:53,940 –> 01:25:56,100
of it we planned for but you know the
2451
01:25:56,100 –> 01:25:57,600
softball Gods I don’t believe in God but
2452
01:25:57,600 –> 01:25:59,100
the softball gods have been looking
2453
01:25:59,100 –> 01:26:02,100
after us uh so you know it is what it is
2454
01:26:02,100 –> 01:26:03,600
but we sort of worked hard to get where
2455
01:26:03,600 –> 01:26:05,639
we where we did as well great well
2456
01:26:05,639 –> 01:26:07,320
there’s a lot of people that we have to
2457
01:26:07,320 –> 01:26:10,040
tag on Facebook
2458
01:26:11,360 –> 01:26:14,400
we were in a question and we noticed uh
2459
01:26:14,400 –> 01:26:16,560
Cindy of course yeah yeah just just to
2460
01:26:16,560 –> 01:26:18,420
to get by you’ve been coaching both men
2461
01:26:18,420 –> 01:26:21,780
and ladies and what we experienced when
2462
01:26:21,780 –> 01:26:25,440
we had a new drill by uh by by Cindy and
2463
01:26:25,440 –> 01:26:27,600
the Visa is that they were explaining
2464
01:26:27,600 –> 01:26:29,219
the drill all the boys were listening
2465
01:26:29,219 –> 01:26:31,080
all the men were listening to it and we
2466
01:26:31,080 –> 01:26:32,940
just start doing the drill and it went
2467
01:26:32,940 –> 01:26:34,860
wrong couple of times but you start
2468
01:26:34,860 –> 01:26:37,620
doing the drill after like 20 minutes
2469
01:26:37,620 –> 01:26:40,320
we get the hang of it and we continue to
2470
01:26:40,320 –> 01:26:43,800
play the drill but I know this with the
2471
01:26:43,800 –> 01:26:45,900
girls when I explain the drill and I
2472
01:26:45,900 –> 01:26:47,100
want to get started I’ll be like oh no
2473
01:26:47,100 –> 01:26:49,020
no wait um is it true that we’re gonna
2474
01:26:49,020 –> 01:26:51,120
do this to that person to that person to
2475
01:26:51,120 –> 01:26:53,340
that person today yeah okay so shall we
2476
01:26:53,340 –> 01:26:55,860
get it go along no no no no and then the
2477
01:26:55,860 –> 01:26:58,920
next girls so for my question for you is
2478
01:26:58,920 –> 01:27:00,659
because
2479
01:27:00,659 –> 01:27:04,260
the one of no guy is gonna tell the
2480
01:27:04,260 –> 01:27:08,000
coach uh I don’t understand it
2481
01:27:13,110 –> 01:27:18,080
[Laughter]
2482
01:27:18,080 –> 01:27:22,020
she could get quite angry with you why
2483
01:27:22,020 –> 01:27:23,699
don’t you understand it it is basic
2484
01:27:23,699 –> 01:27:27,199
softball and we were like okay
2485
01:27:32,420 –> 01:27:35,699
and it’s funny because he was like well
2486
01:27:35,699 –> 01:27:36,960
I’m not saying it’s the female of the
2487
01:27:36,960 –> 01:27:38,699
team that regard it’s the analytical one
2488
01:27:38,699 –> 01:27:40,500
it’s the analytical one where it’s just
2489
01:27:40,500 –> 01:27:41,760
sit there you must know everything
2490
01:27:41,760 –> 01:27:44,580
before they commence yeah why is that
2491
01:27:44,580 –> 01:27:46,560
I’ll tell you why is because they don’t
2492
01:27:46,560 –> 01:27:48,060
want to look stupid
2493
01:27:48,060 –> 01:27:50,340
they want all the information beforehand
2494
01:27:50,340 –> 01:27:52,560
so they can go out and try and get it
2495
01:27:52,560 –> 01:27:54,360
right the first time rather than looking
2496
01:27:54,360 –> 01:27:56,400
like an idiot whereas the guys are just
2497
01:27:56,400 –> 01:27:58,139
like going yeah I’ll have a crack at it
2498
01:27:58,139 –> 01:27:59,400
yeah give me a crack and I’m going to
2499
01:27:59,400 –> 01:28:00,540
stuff this up and then I’ll eventually
2500
01:28:00,540 –> 01:28:03,000
get it right so I’m gonna flip in this
2501
01:28:03,000 –> 01:28:05,520
bowl this on Fierce base uh oh it’s
2502
01:28:05,520 –> 01:28:08,280
supposed to go with three oh yeah so so
2503
01:28:08,280 –> 01:28:10,020
one of the things that I tell the girls
2504
01:28:10,020 –> 01:28:13,139
uh when I’m coaching them is especially
2505
01:28:13,139 –> 01:28:14,639
the new ones so like I said like that’s
2506
01:28:14,639 –> 01:28:15,780
why I try and keep it simple and then
2507
01:28:15,780 –> 01:28:17,040
everyone we do the same thing and then
2508
01:28:17,040 –> 01:28:18,179
it’s pretty hard to get wrong if you’re
2509
01:28:18,179 –> 01:28:20,460
doing the first quarter of training the
2510
01:28:20,460 –> 01:28:21,179
same
2511
01:28:21,179 –> 01:28:22,920
uh but one of the things that I try and
2512
01:28:22,920 –> 01:28:24,480
tell them when we’re doing a new drill
2513
01:28:24,480 –> 01:28:26,340
or if they’re new to the club and it’s
2514
01:28:26,340 –> 01:28:29,699
new to them I say you go to the back and
2515
01:28:29,699 –> 01:28:31,860
just be monkey see monkey do watch the
2516
01:28:31,860 –> 01:28:33,360
people in front of you and then just
2517
01:28:33,360 –> 01:28:35,280
copy with what they do don’t go in the
2518
01:28:35,280 –> 01:28:36,480
front because if you get it wrong then
2519
01:28:36,480 –> 01:28:37,800
you know it doesn’t matter if you get it
2520
01:28:37,800 –> 01:28:38,580
wrong
2521
01:28:38,580 –> 01:28:40,020
but then they just feel a bit insecure
2522
01:28:40,020 –> 01:28:41,940
if they do get it wrong enough and they
2523
01:28:41,940 –> 01:28:44,219
can build up yeah yeah but they’re just
2524
01:28:44,219 –> 01:28:45,360
you know going oh yeah especially if
2525
01:28:45,360 –> 01:28:46,320
you’re coming to a team that’s
2526
01:28:46,320 –> 01:28:48,600
successful and winning you don’t want to
2527
01:28:48,600 –> 01:28:50,219
mess up their trainings we have a hard
2528
01:28:50,219 –> 01:28:51,840
time sometimes attracting players to the
2529
01:28:51,840 –> 01:28:53,940
club because they said they go oh but
2530
01:28:53,940 –> 01:28:55,560
you guys win a lot and it’s like yeah
2531
01:28:55,560 –> 01:28:57,060
but that’s why we’re asking you to come
2532
01:28:57,060 –> 01:28:59,460
here to help us to keep winning a good
2533
01:28:59,460 –> 01:29:01,800
example and that was Franca Van Dyke you
2534
01:29:01,800 –> 01:29:03,540
know she had a choice of us at another
2535
01:29:03,540 –> 01:29:05,219
club but then she’s like oh am I going
2536
01:29:05,219 –> 01:29:06,540
to be a star I’m like well if you hit
2537
01:29:06,540 –> 01:29:07,800
the way you did it quick the season
2538
01:29:07,800 –> 01:29:09,960
before put up the same statistical
2539
01:29:09,960 –> 01:29:12,540
numbers then yes you are my human
2540
01:29:12,540 –> 01:29:14,280
intuition tells me that yes you’re going
2541
01:29:14,280 –> 01:29:16,380
to be a starter nothing’s guaranteed but
2542
01:29:16,380 –> 01:29:18,239
like I said you know judging by the
2543
01:29:18,239 –> 01:29:19,679
mathematics plus your human intuition
2544
01:29:19,679 –> 01:29:21,179
this is where I see you fitting into
2545
01:29:21,179 –> 01:29:22,980
this team and chills the number two
2546
01:29:22,980 –> 01:29:24,480
hitter at the beginning of the Holland
2547
01:29:24,480 –> 01:29:27,780
series and had two RBIs in game five in
2548
01:29:27,780 –> 01:29:30,120
the number five hole you know and
2549
01:29:30,120 –> 01:29:32,280
transferring to our club yeah so that’s
2550
01:29:32,280 –> 01:29:34,679
you’ve got to be happy when people are
2551
01:29:34,679 –> 01:29:36,360
doing things like that but she’s another
2552
01:29:36,360 –> 01:29:37,440
one that will want you know information
2553
01:29:37,440 –> 01:29:39,000
going all right how do we do this and
2554
01:29:39,000 –> 01:29:40,860
has a very analytical mind and
2555
01:29:40,860 –> 01:29:42,420
everything she does
2556
01:29:42,420 –> 01:29:44,280
um because she’s very smart at her job
2557
01:29:44,280 –> 01:29:46,080
you know I I forget what she does but
2558
01:29:46,080 –> 01:29:47,880
she’s very good at her work well so are
2559
01:29:47,880 –> 01:29:49,560
you I remember talking to you well again
2560
01:29:49,560 –> 01:29:50,699
I remember talking to the radio about
2561
01:29:50,699 –> 01:29:52,080
one of the reasons why he wants to stop
2562
01:29:52,080 –> 01:29:53,520
because he’s concentrating he’s
2563
01:29:53,520 –> 01:29:55,320
concentrating on developing his business
2564
01:29:55,320 –> 01:29:57,360
he told me the amount uh how much you
2565
01:29:57,360 –> 01:30:00,600
want it to be uh you know whatever child
2566
01:30:00,600 –> 01:30:03,300
yeah you have uh you’re telling me your
2567
01:30:03,300 –> 01:30:05,040
Ambitions with that and uh you know
2568
01:30:05,040 –> 01:30:06,659
softball has to go on the Wayside so you
2569
01:30:06,659 –> 01:30:07,800
can concentrate on that then yeah all
2570
01:30:07,800 –> 01:30:09,360
the power to you
2571
01:30:09,360 –> 01:30:11,219
um so yeah it is just one of those ones
2572
01:30:11,219 –> 01:30:13,739
where you know it’s coming so you try
2573
01:30:13,739 –> 01:30:15,900
and explain as much as you can before
2574
01:30:15,900 –> 01:30:19,380
you even start the drill uh and you I
2575
01:30:19,380 –> 01:30:21,659
try and revisit so a lot of the drills
2576
01:30:21,659 –> 01:30:22,860
that I’ve done over the years I don’t
2577
01:30:22,860 –> 01:30:25,380
reinvent the wheel I go back to them but
2578
01:30:25,380 –> 01:30:27,659
I don’t have to I have such a big uh
2579
01:30:27,659 –> 01:30:30,420
sack full of drills and games yeah only
2580
01:30:30,420 –> 01:30:31,920
have to revisit them once or twice a
2581
01:30:31,920 –> 01:30:34,620
season you know what I do maybe that’s
2582
01:30:34,620 –> 01:30:36,780
that’s the um actually I’m not an
2583
01:30:36,780 –> 01:30:39,000
example and four build yeah an example
2584
01:30:39,000 –> 01:30:43,020
yeah it’s I have three basic drills on
2585
01:30:43,020 –> 01:30:44,840
uh on on on
2586
01:30:44,840 –> 01:30:48,540
a paper and I blastified it so it’s in
2587
01:30:48,540 –> 01:30:51,000
the game bag whenever I am sick or not
2588
01:30:51,000 –> 01:30:53,639
being able to be there a parent or any
2589
01:30:53,639 –> 01:30:56,340
other can get into the to the material
2590
01:30:56,340 –> 01:30:58,980
bag take out one of those three drills
2591
01:30:58,980 –> 01:31:01,920
and do them and they all know how the
2592
01:31:01,920 –> 01:31:04,139
drill Works actually play poker with
2593
01:31:04,139 –> 01:31:05,760
them which one are we gonna do which is
2594
01:31:05,760 –> 01:31:09,960
three that’s like you said um um in
2595
01:31:09,960 –> 01:31:12,360
uh with your posture and how you explain
2596
01:31:12,360 –> 01:31:14,159
things and how you want to keep your
2597
01:31:14,159 –> 01:31:17,639
kids and focused and aware
2598
01:31:17,639 –> 01:31:20,040
um I think that’s the the way to address
2599
01:31:20,040 –> 01:31:22,800
the Under 12 the youth in in as well as
2600
01:31:22,800 –> 01:31:25,500
baseball and b-ball so
2601
01:31:25,500 –> 01:31:28,139
um that’s a good tip by you and and a
2602
01:31:28,139 –> 01:31:30,719
good difference also how to
2603
01:31:30,719 –> 01:31:33,120
um talk to a group of guys or talk to a
2604
01:31:33,120 –> 01:31:35,040
group of girls it’s different it’s a lot
2605
01:31:35,040 –> 01:31:36,840
easier to talk to a group of guys I can
2606
01:31:36,840 –> 01:31:38,820
tell you that oh yeah well that’s the
2607
01:31:38,820 –> 01:31:40,620
discussion that we had uh the last
2608
01:31:40,620 –> 01:31:43,320
couple of podcasts as well so I’m eager
2609
01:31:43,320 –> 01:31:45,500
to hear maybe not the Olympia guys
2610
01:31:45,500 –> 01:31:48,120
maybe they’ll imagine but Olympia women
2611
01:31:48,120 –> 01:31:49,560
have had me for six years now so they
2612
01:31:49,560 –> 01:31:51,300
know how we work but those are the guys
2613
01:31:51,300 –> 01:31:53,760
I only had them for one year but I’d
2614
01:31:53,760 –> 01:31:55,320
slowly mold them into the team that I
2615
01:31:55,320 –> 01:31:56,880
want them one of the things annoyed with
2616
01:31:56,880 –> 01:31:58,800
the men’s team this year we just argued
2617
01:31:58,800 –> 01:32:02,100
too much with with with coaches no not
2618
01:32:02,100 –> 01:32:03,540
with coaches with umpires amongst
2619
01:32:03,540 –> 01:32:06,360
ourselves and oh yeah yeah so yeah you
2620
01:32:06,360 –> 01:32:07,679
think so that’s a boy thing a little bit
2621
01:32:07,679 –> 01:32:09,600
too much yeah it’s a male thing but um
2622
01:32:09,600 –> 01:32:11,520
and happens but it just happened a
2623
01:32:11,520 –> 01:32:12,840
little bit too much more like and we got
2624
01:32:12,840 –> 01:32:14,400
there in the end but it’s important to
2625
01:32:14,400 –> 01:32:15,780
have those conversations as well you
2626
01:32:15,780 –> 01:32:17,580
can’t let it Fester it’s good that’s one
2627
01:32:17,580 –> 01:32:18,800
of the good things is that we were
2628
01:32:18,800 –> 01:32:21,600
confrontational for it but sometimes
2629
01:32:21,600 –> 01:32:22,860
like I said they could have actually
2630
01:32:22,860 –> 01:32:25,080
just let it be and then talked about it
2631
01:32:25,080 –> 01:32:27,060
after a game not sort of like in-game
2632
01:32:27,060 –> 01:32:28,860
and stuff like that but it happens in
2633
01:32:28,860 –> 01:32:30,960
games yeah it happens I have a question
2634
01:32:30,960 –> 01:32:32,699
about that yes because
2635
01:32:32,699 –> 01:32:35,400
um you were also announced to be the
2636
01:32:35,400 –> 01:32:37,860
best coach of
2637
01:32:37,860 –> 01:32:40,440
this year actually from the Khan base
2638
01:32:40,440 –> 01:32:42,600
Bay what I haven’t heard that yeah you
2639
01:32:42,600 –> 01:32:46,080
are I’m not having like uh but you were
2640
01:32:46,080 –> 01:32:48,480
like uh pronounced the best coach of
2641
01:32:48,480 –> 01:32:51,300
yeah you almost last year yeah it was
2642
01:32:51,300 –> 01:32:54,000
last year but it ends still there’s a
2643
01:32:54,000 –> 01:32:56,520
new uh oh they are they often have they
2644
01:32:56,520 –> 01:32:59,340
they didn’t not yet oh you’re saying
2645
01:32:59,340 –> 01:33:01,320
that they’re going to give it to me no
2646
01:33:01,320 –> 01:33:03,239
okay I’m gonna cut this because it’s
2647
01:33:03,239 –> 01:33:05,340
kind of weird no but
2648
01:33:05,340 –> 01:33:09,600
um they gave it to you but you still are
2649
01:33:09,600 –> 01:33:12,480
it because there’s no new uh best coach
2650
01:33:12,480 –> 01:33:15,000
announced now it was voted it was voted
2651
01:33:15,000 –> 01:33:17,820
amongst the coaches for this year this
2652
01:33:17,820 –> 01:33:19,380
year yeah the coaches got given it which
2653
01:33:19,380 –> 01:33:21,239
is kind of weird because it could be a
2654
01:33:21,239 –> 01:33:23,100
it could be a popularity contest who
2655
01:33:23,100 –> 01:33:24,780
wanted it this year no it hasn’t been
2656
01:33:24,780 –> 01:33:26,060
decided yet
2657
01:33:26,060 –> 01:33:28,620
yeah that’s what I meant yeah you’re
2658
01:33:28,620 –> 01:33:30,239
still it I thought you said that I just
2659
01:33:30,239 –> 01:33:31,739
it was announced or something that I
2660
01:33:31,739 –> 01:33:33,120
wasn’t this year I was like surprise it
2661
01:33:33,120 –> 01:33:35,159
hasn’t been voted on yet so we still
2662
01:33:35,159 –> 01:33:38,639
have the rainy uh yes I’m the coach of
2663
01:33:38,639 –> 01:33:40,139
the year for now for one more month
2664
01:33:40,139 –> 01:33:42,179
maybe yeah yeah that’s a good way to go
2665
01:33:42,179 –> 01:33:44,460
home right I don’t know who’s got it uh
2666
01:33:44,460 –> 01:33:46,739
this year but uh they’ll probably send
2667
01:33:46,739 –> 01:33:49,139
it after you then it is yeah it is kind
2668
01:33:49,139 –> 01:33:50,460
of funny because I said that I was
2669
01:33:50,460 –> 01:33:52,440
joking with Manny and Neil’s I was like
2670
01:33:52,440 –> 01:33:53,760
um well when we were talking about
2671
01:33:53,760 –> 01:33:55,440
having the men’s team put together for
2672
01:33:55,440 –> 01:33:56,940
this year and I was like well I’m gonna
2673
01:33:56,940 –> 01:33:59,040
have to be uh gonna have to do something
2674
01:33:59,040 –> 01:34:01,500
special to try and get it because like I
2675
01:34:01,500 –> 01:34:03,179
said we won the last four Holland series
2676
01:34:03,179 –> 01:34:05,280
that I’ve been here but the side thing
2677
01:34:05,280 –> 01:34:06,600
is they’ve given me coach of the year
2678
01:34:06,600 –> 01:34:08,280
the last three years yeah that I’ve been
2679
01:34:08,280 –> 01:34:10,920
here as well so if if they do give it to
2680
01:34:10,920 –> 01:34:12,540
me this year then well that’s what I’m
2681
01:34:12,540 –> 01:34:13,440
saying I’m going to do something
2682
01:34:13,440 –> 01:34:16,139
extraordinary so yes I’m like let’s try
2683
01:34:16,139 –> 01:34:17,639
and you know well the premiere couple
2684
01:34:17,639 –> 01:34:18,960
you were going to but I’m like if I can
2685
01:34:18,960 –> 01:34:22,620
try one or three right yeah but what I
2686
01:34:22,620 –> 01:34:24,840
wanted to mention that that you are the
2687
01:34:24,840 –> 01:34:27,480
coach of the year still now but do you
2688
01:34:27,480 –> 01:34:29,580
also know that you have like a kind of
2689
01:34:29,580 –> 01:34:31,920
an authority uh within the game as well
2690
01:34:31,920 –> 01:34:34,320
because I have like an example uh where
2691
01:34:34,320 –> 01:34:36,540
it stands out completely
2692
01:34:36,540 –> 01:34:39,360
do you know it from yourself that you
2693
01:34:39,360 –> 01:34:41,159
have like the authority on the field
2694
01:34:41,159 –> 01:34:43,679
yeah
2695
01:34:43,679 –> 01:34:45,300
yeah but I don’t really care about it
2696
01:34:45,300 –> 01:34:48,000
too much all I want is my uh my coaches
2697
01:34:48,000 –> 01:34:51,900
to like me the fans from Olympia uh and
2698
01:34:51,900 –> 01:34:56,940
the players as long as I do goodbye
2699
01:34:56,940 –> 01:34:58,380
and it doesn’t matter from the top to
2700
01:34:58,380 –> 01:34:59,580
the bottom I don’t care if I’m speaking
2701
01:34:59,580 –> 01:35:01,620
to the president of the country to some
2702
01:35:01,620 –> 01:35:03,780
homeless guy outside decabout I still
2703
01:35:03,780 –> 01:35:05,280
treat people of the same amount of
2704
01:35:05,280 –> 01:35:06,420
respect yeah
2705
01:35:06,420 –> 01:35:07,980
um which could sometimes be a good thing
2706
01:35:07,980 –> 01:35:10,500
and a bad thing but uh it’s mainly a
2707
01:35:10,500 –> 01:35:13,800
good thing yeah and I will I will give
2708
01:35:13,800 –> 01:35:15,360
the example as well because we were
2709
01:35:15,360 –> 01:35:17,159
playing at the new van app and it was
2710
01:35:17,159 –> 01:35:20,760
like a game with a lot of arguing uh uh
2711
01:35:20,760 –> 01:35:22,880
and chit chatting at you
2712
01:35:22,880 –> 01:35:27,360
yeah and um at a point there was like a
2713
01:35:27,360 –> 01:35:30,540
a really a large argument about some
2714
01:35:30,540 –> 01:35:35,880
play and the rules weren’t quite like uh
2715
01:35:35,880 –> 01:35:39,300
um obvious and Crystal or clear but then
2716
01:35:39,300 –> 01:35:42,060
yeah well the sort of the uh the
2717
01:35:42,060 –> 01:35:44,159
opponent said well it’s a new rule we
2718
01:35:44,159 –> 01:35:46,080
have to apply it and then everybody
2719
01:35:46,080 –> 01:35:49,260
looked like so to you about you uh
2720
01:35:49,260 –> 01:35:51,060
you’re reacting like that and you were
2721
01:35:51,060 –> 01:35:53,940
like like okay well
2722
01:35:53,940 –> 01:35:56,460
um that rule yeah we tried it a lot of
2723
01:35:56,460 –> 01:35:58,739
times with with the girls as well but it
2724
01:35:58,739 –> 01:36:01,860
isn’t in Holland it’s not really built
2725
01:36:01,860 –> 01:36:06,540
into the system yet so the W BSC you’re
2726
01:36:06,540 –> 01:36:08,100
talking about yeah the new picture
2727
01:36:08,100 –> 01:36:10,020
catcher all yeah and they were trying to
2728
01:36:10,020 –> 01:36:12,659
sneak on a Runner for their picture and
2729
01:36:12,659 –> 01:36:14,520
I’m like no all the other European
2730
01:36:14,520 –> 01:36:16,260
nations have taken on but your nation
2731
01:36:16,260 –> 01:36:18,060
has decided not to for whatever reason
2732
01:36:18,060 –> 01:36:20,699
all right and then I said to him I says
2733
01:36:20,699 –> 01:36:22,860
listen I’d allow it if if it was allowed
2734
01:36:22,860 –> 01:36:24,300
but I try to otherwise I’d be doing it
2735
01:36:24,300 –> 01:36:25,739
yeah I told them I said look if that
2736
01:36:25,739 –> 01:36:27,900
rule was in I’d be using it to have
2737
01:36:27,900 –> 01:36:30,659
Manny uh run for and Anthony I’d be
2738
01:36:30,659 –> 01:36:31,860
abusing the rule like that’s what you’re
2739
01:36:31,860 –> 01:36:33,360
doing it’s not abusing it’s just using
2740
01:36:33,360 –> 01:36:35,040
the rules whatever the rules are yeah
2741
01:36:35,040 –> 01:36:36,600
and then I told him I said no otherwise
2742
01:36:36,600 –> 01:36:38,340
I’d let you and yeah you’re right they
2743
01:36:38,340 –> 01:36:39,719
all looked at me and I was like no I can
2744
01:36:39,719 –> 01:36:41,520
tell you now that that’s that’s what’s
2745
01:36:41,520 –> 01:36:42,960
going on right now yeah and the other
2746
01:36:42,960 –> 01:36:45,659
teamwork and yeah they were looking at
2747
01:36:45,659 –> 01:36:49,500
uh Stan and they said okay okay and
2748
01:36:49,500 –> 01:36:51,900
they’re going back in there in in the
2749
01:36:51,900 –> 01:36:53,239
cave
2750
01:36:53,239 –> 01:36:55,980
yeah and then it was the DP Flex a lot
2751
01:36:55,980 –> 01:36:57,600
of the teams are like going can’t do
2752
01:36:57,600 –> 01:37:00,480
that and yeah some of the umpires that
2753
01:37:00,480 –> 01:37:01,920
were umpiring our games were sort of
2754
01:37:01,920 –> 01:37:04,020
just doing it to help out yeah you feel
2755
01:37:04,020 –> 01:37:05,280
bad because I’m like no no I’m not going
2756
01:37:05,280 –> 01:37:06,840
to cheat on you guys all right but I’m
2757
01:37:06,840 –> 01:37:08,280
telling you this is legal what I’m doing
2758
01:37:08,280 –> 01:37:10,980
but I’m not abusing it or you know doing
2759
01:37:10,980 –> 01:37:13,380
anything but and you feel bad but most
2760
01:37:13,380 –> 01:37:14,520
of the umpires you know they’re doing it
2761
01:37:14,520 –> 01:37:15,719
every now and again there’d be a game
2762
01:37:15,719 –> 01:37:17,400
where you know it’s one of the parents
2763
01:37:17,400 –> 01:37:18,840
knowledge is power
2764
01:37:18,840 –> 01:37:21,480
yeah then again knowledge is power and
2765
01:37:21,480 –> 01:37:23,580
especially with Statistics yeah but is
2766
01:37:23,580 –> 01:37:25,620
that also an advice that you can give
2767
01:37:25,620 –> 01:37:28,739
like new coaches as well get a scorer
2768
01:37:28,739 –> 01:37:30,420
train up one of the parents to be a
2769
01:37:30,420 –> 01:37:32,460
scorer uh the new way of doing it is
2770
01:37:32,460 –> 01:37:33,960
electronically
2771
01:37:33,960 –> 01:37:35,880
um Nils Meek has been doing it for our
2772
01:37:35,880 –> 01:37:38,340
club uh and well we have two scorers we
2773
01:37:38,340 –> 01:37:40,080
have Kalinda that does the paper scoring
2774
01:37:40,080 –> 01:37:43,380
and Nils does uh all the electronic but
2775
01:37:43,380 –> 01:37:45,600
one thing I would do is because you know
2776
01:37:45,600 –> 01:37:46,920
what doesn’t matter what age you are
2777
01:37:46,920 –> 01:37:50,040
when you’re 10 11 12 13 years old you
2778
01:37:50,040 –> 01:37:52,380
want to know how good you are yeah you
2779
01:37:52,380 –> 01:37:53,699
want to learn and like going hey you
2780
01:37:53,699 –> 01:37:55,380
know what does 250 mean well they know
2781
01:37:55,380 –> 01:37:57,420
that 330 is better than 250 you know
2782
01:37:57,420 –> 01:37:59,880
going oh yeah the problem with that is
2783
01:37:59,880 –> 01:38:01,679
of course if you’re a kid that bets 110
2784
01:38:01,679 –> 01:38:03,420
120 but then don’t show it to those kids
2785
01:38:03,420 –> 01:38:04,920
just you know the kids that do want it
2786
01:38:04,920 –> 01:38:06,120
and that are doing good it’s like here
2787
01:38:06,120 –> 01:38:07,620
there you go well then you can sit there
2788
01:38:07,620 –> 01:38:09,480
and one on one say listen your 110 we’re
2789
01:38:09,480 –> 01:38:11,159
going to do this to get you to 150 next
2790
01:38:11,159 –> 01:38:13,500
year yeah you know and Chase those
2791
01:38:13,500 –> 01:38:15,600
numbers too because that’s well at the
2792
01:38:15,600 –> 01:38:17,100
end of the day like I said a lot of what
2793
01:38:17,100 –> 01:38:19,500
we’re doing is statistical data and what
2794
01:38:19,500 –> 01:38:21,120
I what I noticed with the with the kids
2795
01:38:21,120 –> 01:38:23,100
is that I really want to know during the
2796
01:38:23,100 –> 01:38:25,440
game What’s the score uh are we in front
2797
01:38:25,440 –> 01:38:27,300
or behind yeah and of course they’re
2798
01:38:27,300 –> 01:38:29,940
always either tie or behind we’re never
2799
01:38:29,940 –> 01:38:32,340
upfront yeah that’s that’s a little bit
2800
01:38:32,340 –> 01:38:34,560
of a trick we talk about giving the kids
2801
01:38:34,560 –> 01:38:36,000
something to do that’s why you take your
2802
01:38:36,000 –> 01:38:37,800
big whiteboard take your whiteboard with
2803
01:38:37,800 –> 01:38:39,600
your marker and get the and draw it up
2804
01:38:39,600 –> 01:38:40,980
manually you know with you so you can
2805
01:38:40,980 –> 01:38:42,360
just rub it out but give them a Job
2806
01:38:42,360 –> 01:38:43,739
saying yeah put up the score so the kids
2807
01:38:43,739 –> 01:38:45,719
can check it out who’s got beer or who’s
2808
01:38:45,719 –> 01:38:47,639
got the run you know there’s there’s so
2809
01:38:47,639 –> 01:38:49,560
many lots of little things that you can
2810
01:38:49,560 –> 01:38:51,960
do but it’s you as the coach what you
2811
01:38:51,960 –> 01:38:54,420
train them up to be yeah but the problem
2812
01:38:54,420 –> 01:38:57,360
is that so many coaches they’re the one
2813
01:38:57,360 –> 01:39:00,060
all and uh you know there’s no one else
2814
01:39:00,060 –> 01:39:02,159
to help them that that’s when the game
2815
01:39:02,159 –> 01:39:04,440
doesn’t become fun you do end up doing a
2816
01:39:04,440 –> 01:39:05,940
half-assed job because you’re having to
2817
01:39:05,940 –> 01:39:07,560
do the uniforms watch the uniforms
2818
01:39:07,560 –> 01:39:09,480
there’s probably scoring as well you
2819
01:39:09,480 –> 01:39:11,280
know doing absolutely everything getting
2820
01:39:11,280 –> 01:39:13,260
their lunch ready but it’s like you know
2821
01:39:13,260 –> 01:39:14,699
what I [ __ ] a lot of those coaches
2822
01:39:14,699 –> 01:39:16,920
haven’t asked for help or they haven’t
2823
01:39:16,920 –> 01:39:18,239
asked the right people to help or they
2824
01:39:18,239 –> 01:39:19,940
haven’t asked everyone wanted to help
2825
01:39:19,940 –> 01:39:22,080
that’s the main thing that you can’t do
2826
01:39:22,080 –> 01:39:24,120
these things on your own you need help
2827
01:39:24,120 –> 01:39:26,639
and uh that’s a good tip and another
2828
01:39:26,639 –> 01:39:28,860
thing is that I say to everyone I even
2829
01:39:28,860 –> 01:39:30,239
use this to people when you’re going out
2830
01:39:30,239 –> 01:39:31,380
to nightclubs and trying to you know
2831
01:39:31,380 –> 01:39:32,639
chase women when they’re younger if you
2832
01:39:32,639 –> 01:39:34,320
don’t ask you don’t get yeah so if
2833
01:39:34,320 –> 01:39:35,340
you’ve got to sit there and be the shy
2834
01:39:35,340 –> 01:39:37,020
one they won’t go up and talk to the hot
2835
01:39:37,020 –> 01:39:38,580
girl at the club it’s like guess what
2836
01:39:38,580 –> 01:39:39,840
you’re never going to have it but if
2837
01:39:39,840 –> 01:39:41,760
you’re willing to go up and say Hey you
2838
01:39:41,760 –> 01:39:43,500
look nice you know they could have a
2839
01:39:43,500 –> 01:39:45,239
chat yeah you know can I get you a drink
2840
01:39:45,239 –> 01:39:47,040
they’re like going nah I’m not I don’t
2841
01:39:47,040 –> 01:39:49,020
don’t fancy her it’s like oh yeah okay
2842
01:39:49,020 –> 01:39:50,760
but you know you asked you didn’t get
2843
01:39:50,760 –> 01:39:52,620
but what happens what happens if they do
2844
01:39:52,620 –> 01:39:54,840
say yes you know it’s like oh okay then
2845
01:39:54,840 –> 01:39:56,280
okay you need to be able to have it but
2846
01:39:56,280 –> 01:39:57,780
a game as well but it’s the same if you
2847
01:39:57,780 –> 01:39:58,920
coaching the team man if you don’t ask
2848
01:39:58,920 –> 01:40:01,260
the parents you know oh okay yeah what
2849
01:40:01,260 –> 01:40:03,000
happens are my family owned an orchard
2850
01:40:03,000 –> 01:40:04,560
oh so you can bring apples and oranges
2851
01:40:04,560 –> 01:40:06,239
to uh the game yeah it’s like yeah okay
2852
01:40:06,239 –> 01:40:07,679
there you go there’s your apples and
2853
01:40:07,679 –> 01:40:09,239
oranges taken care of probably just
2854
01:40:09,239 –> 01:40:11,280
saved you 400 euros in the budget for
2855
01:40:11,280 –> 01:40:13,679
the year you know you don’t know what
2856
01:40:13,679 –> 01:40:15,900
these people do but um if they’ve got
2857
01:40:15,900 –> 01:40:18,239
something yeah use it you’re not using
2858
01:40:18,239 –> 01:40:20,280
them you just you using what they have
2859
01:40:20,280 –> 01:40:21,719
access to yeah
2860
01:40:21,719 –> 01:40:24,060
so you’re talking about uh scoring for
2861
01:40:24,060 –> 01:40:26,400
and do you score yourself as well or do
2862
01:40:26,400 –> 01:40:28,800
you let anybody else score now we’ve got
2863
01:40:28,800 –> 01:40:30,120
two people that do it Collision DeVries
2864
01:40:30,120 –> 01:40:32,100
is our team scorer she does the paper
2865
01:40:32,100 –> 01:40:34,860
version and nilsy Mika does the the
2866
01:40:34,860 –> 01:40:36,900
spray chart yeah he does the electronic
2867
01:40:36,900 –> 01:40:38,340
scoring where you can sit there and have
2868
01:40:38,340 –> 01:40:40,320
the spray part uh chart ready for it
2869
01:40:40,320 –> 01:40:41,940
these are a lot of these are a lot of
2870
01:40:41,940 –> 01:40:43,080
little things that people don’t know
2871
01:40:43,080 –> 01:40:44,880
that we do in our team that some of the
2872
01:40:44,880 –> 01:40:46,620
other teams just don’t do so we have all
2873
01:40:46,620 –> 01:40:48,060
the information at hand straight away
2874
01:40:48,060 –> 01:40:50,040
and for the season over multiple Seasons
2875
01:40:50,040 –> 01:40:51,900
we used to do it by hand my first year I
2876
01:40:51,900 –> 01:40:53,400
was here but now that the tablets are
2877
01:40:53,400 –> 01:40:55,500
getting better uh there’s ones that you
2878
01:40:55,500 –> 01:40:56,760
can pay for they’re a lot better but we
2879
01:40:56,760 –> 01:40:58,920
still do it the Dutch cheap way and use
2880
01:40:58,920 –> 01:41:01,320
the free versions but uh there are some
2881
01:41:01,320 –> 01:41:02,880
better ones out there what’s the big
2882
01:41:02,880 –> 01:41:05,940
advantage of uh electronic scoring
2883
01:41:05,940 –> 01:41:07,739
because I think the big Advantage is
2884
01:41:07,739 –> 01:41:10,560
that you get information of your
2885
01:41:10,560 –> 01:41:12,420
opponents yeah that’s what it’s all
2886
01:41:12,420 –> 01:41:14,580
about yeah not only your own players but
2887
01:41:14,580 –> 01:41:16,199
your own oh no we were against the
2888
01:41:16,199 –> 01:41:18,000
pitcher because that’s that’s on the
2889
01:41:18,000 –> 01:41:20,520
paper gives you information about your
2890
01:41:20,520 –> 01:41:22,920
own players yeah but the the electronic
2891
01:41:22,920 –> 01:41:24,300
will give you information about the
2892
01:41:24,300 –> 01:41:26,280
teams you’re playing and it’s instant am
2893
01:41:26,280 –> 01:41:27,960
I right yeah and and you know which
2894
01:41:27,960 –> 01:41:29,340
which pitches they’re hitting off you
2895
01:41:29,340 –> 01:41:31,800
and where yeah so you can you manipulate
2896
01:41:31,800 –> 01:41:33,600
your field yeah according to where they
2897
01:41:33,600 –> 01:41:35,340
hit the ball we all have our tendency
2898
01:41:35,340 –> 01:41:37,260
this is something that that’s new I
2899
01:41:37,260 –> 01:41:40,080
believe for Holland wise well MLB you’re
2900
01:41:40,080 –> 01:41:41,580
doing it at bat by at bat they’re going
2901
01:41:41,580 –> 01:41:42,960
back and checking their swings and like
2902
01:41:42,960 –> 01:41:44,639
you know after every at-bat like that’s
2903
01:41:44,639 –> 01:41:46,860
the new extreme we don’t do it uh
2904
01:41:46,860 –> 01:41:49,920
as much as that but uh
2905
01:41:49,920 –> 01:41:53,600
yeah that’s foreign
2906
01:42:01,159 –> 01:42:03,060
they’re smart enough to realize what
2907
01:42:03,060 –> 01:42:05,580
they want to be doing for the season but
2908
01:42:05,580 –> 01:42:07,320
why not at under 12s as well you can
2909
01:42:07,320 –> 01:42:08,820
start teach them that if you have the
2910
01:42:08,820 –> 01:42:10,800
capacity with the appearance to do that
2911
01:42:10,800 –> 01:42:12,659
yeah but start trading them up how to do
2912
01:42:12,659 –> 01:42:13,860
it because you know what it’ll be fun
2913
01:42:13,860 –> 01:42:15,360
for the parents to start doing it as
2914
01:42:15,360 –> 01:42:16,860
well you might find that the parents
2915
01:42:16,860 –> 01:42:18,300
could end up being top better because
2916
01:42:18,300 –> 01:42:19,739
you know any of those half hits are not
2917
01:42:19,739 –> 01:42:21,900
errors there they’re going to be uh
2918
01:42:21,900 –> 01:42:23,460
differently but you know what if that’s
2919
01:42:23,460 –> 01:42:25,199
the if that’s the trade-off if that’s
2920
01:42:25,199 –> 01:42:26,159
the trade-off that the kid’s gonna
2921
01:42:26,159 –> 01:42:27,540
automatically be top better than it’s
2922
01:42:27,540 –> 01:42:29,900
you know
2923
01:42:30,780 –> 01:42:32,699
the commitment from parents for the
2924
01:42:32,699 –> 01:42:34,619
season the boys yeah and then you know
2925
01:42:34,619 –> 01:42:36,300
what then you get a buddy you say all
2926
01:42:36,300 –> 01:42:37,560
right train someone else you need to
2927
01:42:37,560 –> 01:42:40,800
give every parent a a part in your team
2928
01:42:40,800 –> 01:42:43,139
yeah a job or whatever you can ask
2929
01:42:43,139 –> 01:42:45,540
pretty much yeah if they want if there’s
2930
01:42:45,540 –> 01:42:47,400
10 kids there’s going to be 10 parents
2931
01:42:47,400 –> 01:42:50,820
maybe 20 maybe only 12 13 14 15 if
2932
01:42:50,820 –> 01:42:52,080
there’s a few divorces in there and
2933
01:42:52,080 –> 01:42:54,420
whatnot but if you go and ask them you
2934
01:42:54,420 –> 01:42:56,280
don’t even need all of them half yeah
2935
01:42:56,280 –> 01:42:58,739
half of tens five if you get five
2936
01:42:58,739 –> 01:43:01,980
volunteers yeah you’re set you can sit
2937
01:43:01,980 –> 01:43:03,600
there and go one assistant coach one
2938
01:43:03,600 –> 01:43:07,080
scorer and one in charge of lunches one
2939
01:43:07,080 –> 01:43:08,940
in charge of Transport you know just one
2940
01:43:08,940 –> 01:43:10,320
team manager there’s just so many
2941
01:43:10,320 –> 01:43:12,239
different roles that are needed in our
2942
01:43:12,239 –> 01:43:13,679
sport it’s one of the best and worst
2943
01:43:13,679 –> 01:43:15,360
things about it is all the extra help
2944
01:43:15,360 –> 01:43:17,219
you need same as the equipment the
2945
01:43:17,219 –> 01:43:18,719
amount of equipment we need you know
2946
01:43:18,719 –> 01:43:22,139
it’s 300 for a bet 150 for a glove you
2947
01:43:22,139 –> 01:43:24,060
know it’s not cheap it’s not a cheap
2948
01:43:24,060 –> 01:43:25,800
sport to blame it’s about the prices for
2949
01:43:25,800 –> 01:43:28,260
the mouthpieces oh the guard pieces yeah
2950
01:43:28,260 –> 01:43:30,719
yeah man they’re like 45 years 45 years
2951
01:43:30,719 –> 01:43:32,699
Rose for yep for the little field again
2952
01:43:32,699 –> 01:43:34,440
it all adds up there’s checks in the
2953
01:43:34,440 –> 01:43:37,679
field yep that’s a lot oh yeah yeah but
2954
01:43:37,679 –> 01:43:39,060
then again you know what’s a horse
2955
01:43:39,060 –> 01:43:40,560
riding costume
2956
01:43:40,560 –> 01:43:42,840
it’s cheap maybe cheaper to play
2957
01:43:42,840 –> 01:43:46,139
softball so um I’ve a a really small
2958
01:43:46,139 –> 01:43:49,679
question sir a forward so what are your
2959
01:43:49,679 –> 01:43:54,360
strengths my strengths yeah uh people
2960
01:43:54,360 –> 01:43:56,520
in communication just knowing people
2961
01:43:56,520 –> 01:44:00,480
yeah yeah I grew up not poor but grew up
2962
01:44:00,480 –> 01:44:03,840
reasonably poor and uh I lived I’ve
2963
01:44:03,840 –> 01:44:05,100
lived in nine different countries
2964
01:44:05,100 –> 01:44:07,860
traveled over 80. you developed some uh
2965
01:44:07,860 –> 01:44:11,159
your skills yeah you just know people
2966
01:44:11,159 –> 01:44:13,560
so what are your weaknesses
2967
01:44:13,560 –> 01:44:15,060
professionalism
2968
01:44:15,060 –> 01:44:16,800
all right
2969
01:44:16,800 –> 01:44:18,420
um I do that you wouldn’t say I do the
2970
01:44:18,420 –> 01:44:19,800
minimum standards when it comes to being
2971
01:44:19,800 –> 01:44:21,119
professional
2972
01:44:21,119 –> 01:44:23,460
I’d do it when I have to I don’t like it
2973
01:44:23,460 –> 01:44:24,780
like when I’m coaching national teams
2974
01:44:24,780 –> 01:44:26,159
I’ll cut my hair and have my hair or
2975
01:44:26,159 –> 01:44:26,940
prop
2976
01:44:26,940 –> 01:44:30,420
erly done but uh yeah when that’s why I
2977
01:44:30,420 –> 01:44:31,980
love the club environment because you
2978
01:44:31,980 –> 01:44:33,420
still get to be yourself as much as
2979
01:44:33,420 –> 01:44:34,679
possible but when you’re coaching your
2980
01:44:34,679 –> 01:44:37,199
national teams uh well that’s a good
2981
01:44:37,199 –> 01:44:38,280
thing for me though it makes me be
2982
01:44:38,280 –> 01:44:39,239
professional
2983
01:44:39,239 –> 01:44:42,060
but it’s not my true personality all
2984
01:44:42,060 –> 01:44:43,980
right and then next year what you’re
2985
01:44:43,980 –> 01:44:47,520
gonna do in New Zealand enjoy life
2986
01:44:47,520 –> 01:44:50,159
watch watch softball maybe even go back
2987
01:44:50,159 –> 01:44:51,900
to playing a little bit yeah why not
2988
01:44:51,900 –> 01:44:55,560
yeah I’ll go play some low grades yeah
2989
01:44:55,560 –> 01:44:57,480
yeah just the cool thing is that maybe
2990
01:44:57,480 –> 01:45:00,000
uh we can even see you if there’s like a
2991
01:45:00,000 –> 01:45:02,460
live broadcasting something like that
2992
01:45:02,460 –> 01:45:05,100
you know because uh like five years ago
2993
01:45:05,100 –> 01:45:06,600
there was an on the field any
2994
01:45:06,600 –> 01:45:09,360
broadcasters you can even buy now uh
2995
01:45:09,360 –> 01:45:11,400
it’s called the movie cams or something
2996
01:45:11,400 –> 01:45:14,100
like that yeah you can buy that stuff
2997
01:45:14,100 –> 01:45:16,199
for like 1500 Euros
2998
01:45:16,199 –> 01:45:18,780
and then you can live stream uh look
2999
01:45:18,780 –> 01:45:20,400
look at them talking as if kiwis all had
3000
01:45:20,400 –> 01:45:22,980
1500 Euros spare not everyone has
3001
01:45:22,980 –> 01:45:26,600
successful businesses like you do mate
3002
01:45:27,960 –> 01:45:30,600
that’s even in New Zealand Dollars 1500
3003
01:45:30,600 –> 01:45:32,400
that’s a lot of money for for a lot of
3004
01:45:32,400 –> 01:45:34,679
people yeah yeah luckily my family are
3005
01:45:34,679 –> 01:45:36,300
okay now but like there’s a lot of New
3006
01:45:36,300 –> 01:45:37,739
Zealand families that are doing it tough
3007
01:45:37,739 –> 01:45:38,940
at the moment
3008
01:45:38,940 –> 01:45:40,080
yeah
3009
01:45:40,080 –> 01:45:42,000
well hopefully they will uh keep getting
3010
01:45:42,000 –> 01:45:44,340
better in the future right time will
3011
01:45:44,340 –> 01:45:46,739
tell yep time will tell okay talking
3012
01:45:46,739 –> 01:45:47,940
about time
3013
01:45:47,940 –> 01:45:50,760
yeah we have a great question here what
3014
01:45:50,760 –> 01:45:52,800
do you see yourself in five years from
3015
01:45:52,800 –> 01:45:56,820
uh now five years back home yeah your uh
3016
01:45:56,820 –> 01:45:59,699
girlfriend’s coming with you and uh are
3017
01:45:59,699 –> 01:46:00,840
you married
3018
01:46:00,840 –> 01:46:03,679
girlfriend just yet plans
3019
01:46:03,679 –> 01:46:06,020
she’s told me her ring size
3020
01:46:06,020 –> 01:46:08,639
I know her ring size is 50. she’s told
3021
01:46:08,639 –> 01:46:10,139
me plenty of times you’re getting there
3022
01:46:10,139 –> 01:46:12,480
yeah I’m not well if you had to ask me
3023
01:46:12,480 –> 01:46:14,639
five six years ago yeah but uh we may
3024
01:46:14,639 –> 01:46:16,020
have to to get her into the country it’s
3025
01:46:16,020 –> 01:46:17,460
pretty hard to get into New Zealand at
3026
01:46:17,460 –> 01:46:18,780
the moment we already got to climb once
3027
01:46:18,780 –> 01:46:20,340
so we’re applying again yeah strict
3028
01:46:20,340 –> 01:46:22,199
rules and because we aren’t married and
3029
01:46:22,199 –> 01:46:23,760
we don’t have kids then they’re sort of
3030
01:46:23,760 –> 01:46:25,080
like going are you in a really in a
3031
01:46:25,080 –> 01:46:26,699
relationship and we’re not financially
3032
01:46:26,699 –> 01:46:30,060
independent so yeah we have to uh try
3033
01:46:30,060 –> 01:46:31,560
and work out what we need to do to get
3034
01:46:31,560 –> 01:46:32,940
her to move into New Zealand we can just
3035
01:46:32,940 –> 01:46:34,679
get her a job you know she’s highly
3036
01:46:34,679 –> 01:46:36,360
employable so we might have to just do
3037
01:46:36,360 –> 01:46:38,460
that route yeah uh so we’ll see what
3038
01:46:38,460 –> 01:46:39,719
happens there but in terms of where will
3039
01:46:39,719 –> 01:46:41,580
I be in five years that’s the beauty
3040
01:46:41,580 –> 01:46:43,320
about the life that I’ve lived I’ve
3041
01:46:43,320 –> 01:46:46,260
always just sort of you know uh I’m
3042
01:46:46,260 –> 01:46:47,940
playing one two three four years ahead
3043
01:46:47,940 –> 01:46:50,880
uh but I don’t go I never really planned
3044
01:46:50,880 –> 01:46:52,199
five years ahead
3045
01:46:52,199 –> 01:46:53,460
um the last four year plan that I did
3046
01:46:53,460 –> 01:46:55,679
have in place was here so if I did go to
3047
01:46:55,679 –> 01:46:59,580
do uh another coaching gig it would be
3048
01:46:59,580 –> 01:47:02,540
something that I can see Merit end and
3049
01:47:02,540 –> 01:47:05,880
something that excites me but it becomes
3050
01:47:05,880 –> 01:47:08,580
less and less now so it’s pretty hard to
3051
01:47:08,580 –> 01:47:11,100
get excited about
3052
01:47:11,100 –> 01:47:13,320
different coaching a lot about a
3053
01:47:13,320 –> 01:47:14,400
different sport
3054
01:47:14,400 –> 01:47:16,260
yeah one thing that has interest me is
3055
01:47:16,260 –> 01:47:18,659
rugby league so I was decent rugby
3056
01:47:18,659 –> 01:47:21,480
league player I was just too small but
3057
01:47:21,480 –> 01:47:23,580
again I had the brains for rugby league
3058
01:47:23,580 –> 01:47:26,760
so uh yeah rugby league would be
3059
01:47:26,760 –> 01:47:28,020
something I’d be interested or Aussie
3060
01:47:28,020 –> 01:47:29,400
rules I’d be interested to go and coach
3061
01:47:29,400 –> 01:47:30,719
and Aussie rules as well because that’s
3062
01:47:30,719 –> 01:47:32,340
another thing because my body was a lot
3063
01:47:32,340 –> 01:47:34,260
smaller than others you had to be smart
3064
01:47:34,260 –> 01:47:35,880
otherwise you’d be getting knocked out
3065
01:47:35,880 –> 01:47:38,159
so you’ll learn all the way yeah and
3066
01:47:38,159 –> 01:47:40,020
with softball it was easy like when I
3067
01:47:40,020 –> 01:47:42,060
moved to New Zealand yeah and I moved to
3068
01:47:42,060 –> 01:47:44,820
Auckland the Auckland league in my era
3069
01:47:44,820 –> 01:47:48,420
was ridiculous good yeah you know all
3070
01:47:48,420 –> 01:47:51,900
the names yeah like Donnie Hale
3071
01:47:51,900 –> 01:47:55,139
um Brad Rona Dio nokonoku nathanuku Pat
3072
01:47:55,139 –> 01:47:57,719
Shannon hi Shannon
3073
01:47:57,719 –> 01:47:59,639
um Roman Gabriel uh you know they’re
3074
01:47:59,639 –> 01:48:02,820
just absolutely packed with Talent oh
3075
01:48:02,820 –> 01:48:04,800
Brad did I say bread roller yeah I can’t
3076
01:48:04,800 –> 01:48:06,540
remember yeah so Brad roner’s from North
3077
01:48:06,540 –> 01:48:07,800
Harbor
3078
01:48:07,800 –> 01:48:10,920
um DC yeah sorry Thomas Cameron yep from
3079
01:48:10,920 –> 01:48:14,100
Ramblers as well uh Daniel Lam hunt
3080
01:48:14,100 –> 01:48:15,960
who’s playing baseball in Germany at the
3081
01:48:15,960 –> 01:48:18,480
moment yeah there’s and you you played
3082
01:48:18,480 –> 01:48:19,980
in that league with those guys yeah you
3083
01:48:19,980 –> 01:48:21,840
just go back you just go by yeah it’s
3084
01:48:21,840 –> 01:48:22,860
just another player like I was one of
3085
01:48:22,860 –> 01:48:25,440
the better players in my team uh but
3086
01:48:25,440 –> 01:48:27,480
again like I said I was even back then I
3087
01:48:27,480 –> 01:48:30,239
was just so used to partying and
3088
01:48:30,239 –> 01:48:32,460
because I was so smart I knew I was
3089
01:48:32,460 –> 01:48:33,600
never going to be as good as those guys
3090
01:48:33,600 –> 01:48:36,420
you know I was I was 60 kilos those guys
3091
01:48:36,420 –> 01:48:38,820
are 90 kilos 100 kilos 105 kilos of
3092
01:48:38,820 –> 01:48:40,800
muscle they just tap the ball and he
3093
01:48:40,800 –> 01:48:42,719
goes flying over the fence and the good
3094
01:48:42,719 –> 01:48:44,280
thing was I used to play center field so
3095
01:48:44,280 –> 01:48:45,719
I used to sit there and just bang and
3096
01:48:45,719 –> 01:48:47,400
you didn’t have to go running for the
3097
01:48:47,400 –> 01:48:49,260
ball half the time yeah because if it
3098
01:48:49,260 –> 01:48:51,780
goes up in the air oh yeah it’s gone or
3099
01:48:51,780 –> 01:48:53,699
if it goes that high up you could run
3100
01:48:53,699 –> 01:48:55,260
you pretty much only need one outfielder
3101
01:48:55,260 –> 01:48:56,460
I could run all the way to right field
3102
01:48:56,460 –> 01:48:58,020
and leftfield by the time the ball drops
3103
01:48:58,020 –> 01:49:00,239
yeah uh yeah but it was good fun to play
3104
01:49:00,239 –> 01:49:01,920
against those guys I didn’t know them
3105
01:49:01,920 –> 01:49:03,540
much uh I didn’t
3106
01:49:03,540 –> 01:49:05,400
yeah I never really socialize with them
3107
01:49:05,400 –> 01:49:07,980
I like I said I was a wine club man uh
3108
01:49:07,980 –> 01:49:11,580
we used to have the um yeah oh gosh I
3109
01:49:11,580 –> 01:49:14,520
don’t know if I should say that uh we
3110
01:49:14,520 –> 01:49:16,080
had very good looking people at our club
3111
01:49:16,080 –> 01:49:18,239
you know we uh our friends and our
3112
01:49:18,239 –> 01:49:19,500
girlfriends and our girlfriends friends
3113
01:49:19,500 –> 01:49:21,060
so we’d always just go straight to our
3114
01:49:21,060 –> 01:49:23,400
parties afterwards and you know yeah
3115
01:49:23,400 –> 01:49:25,679
like we’re a 500 Club you know or
3116
01:49:25,679 –> 01:49:26,820
sometimes a little bit less like you
3117
01:49:26,820 –> 01:49:29,040
know we’d win 10 lose 10.
3118
01:49:29,040 –> 01:49:30,420
um so we would come last but we couldn’t
3119
01:49:30,420 –> 01:49:32,040
compete with the top tier teams because
3120
01:49:32,040 –> 01:49:33,420
we didn’t have any Black Sox players in
3121
01:49:33,420 –> 01:49:35,159
our team uh but we would have guys like
3122
01:49:35,159 –> 01:49:39,239
Rob gray or um uh Hayden Smith heater
3123
01:49:39,239 –> 01:49:40,860
like we had some good players ourselves
3124
01:49:40,860 –> 01:49:42,900
like you know really good players but it
3125
01:49:42,900 –> 01:49:44,280
still wasn’t good enough to win the
3126
01:49:44,280 –> 01:49:46,020
Auckland or North Harbor League yeah
3127
01:49:46,020 –> 01:49:47,400
there’s just too many good players and
3128
01:49:47,400 –> 01:49:50,219
too many good teams back then well did
3129
01:49:50,219 –> 01:49:53,159
you do a Haka can you do a Haka yeah
3130
01:49:53,159 –> 01:49:55,260
yeah I can I delete it for the Aussie
3131
01:49:55,260 –> 01:49:57,060
rules team because I’ve got Pat Mary
3132
01:49:57,060 –> 01:49:59,219
blood of me but it doesn’t look uh
3133
01:49:59,219 –> 01:50:01,820
fierce when someone’s 60 kilos 64 kilos
3134
01:50:01,820 –> 01:50:05,219
leading 22 other guys you know I would
3135
01:50:05,219 –> 01:50:06,659
like I said I was a skill player I was
3136
01:50:06,659 –> 01:50:09,840
small so yeah I can do it uh but it’s
3137
01:50:09,840 –> 01:50:11,219
not as fearsome as like you know guys
3138
01:50:11,219 –> 01:50:12,900
like Manny and people bigger than many
3139
01:50:12,900 –> 01:50:14,940
doing it yeah but yeah no I know how to
3140
01:50:14,940 –> 01:50:17,100
do it uh it’s well everyone not everyone
3141
01:50:17,100 –> 01:50:18,960
but most people know how to do it but I
3142
01:50:18,960 –> 01:50:21,179
just because how do you learn that is it
3143
01:50:21,179 –> 01:50:22,800
something if you learn at school around
3144
01:50:22,800 –> 01:50:25,020
the street yeah like all my cousins uh
3145
01:50:25,020 –> 01:50:27,300
like my dad’s part Maori but my mum’s
3146
01:50:27,300 –> 01:50:29,340
Scottish but all my dad’s brothers and
3147
01:50:29,340 –> 01:50:32,400
sisters married more maori’s maoris I
3148
01:50:32,400 –> 01:50:34,800
should say and Sam Owens and Islanders
3149
01:50:34,800 –> 01:50:36,480
so you look at my cousins and they’re
3150
01:50:36,480 –> 01:50:38,639
all they’re all dark not not antilly and
3151
01:50:38,639 –> 01:50:40,440
dark you know but they’re they’re you
3152
01:50:40,440 –> 01:50:42,659
know dark brown is the is the color that
3153
01:50:42,659 –> 01:50:44,159
you should choose but so you’d look at
3154
01:50:44,159 –> 01:50:45,900
us and go no but I’ve got the Scottish
3155
01:50:45,900 –> 01:50:48,060
white skinny jeans but I could go Brown
3156
01:50:48,060 –> 01:50:50,340
in the summer but uh yeah you just grow
3157
01:50:50,340 –> 01:50:53,280
up with your cousins uh you know and
3158
01:50:53,280 –> 01:50:55,320
that’s what you did yeah and the
3159
01:50:55,320 –> 01:50:56,760
different regions have different hackers
3160
01:50:56,760 –> 01:50:59,340
when you play your Schoolboy uh under
3161
01:50:59,340 –> 01:51:01,619
15s under 17s the different regions have
3162
01:51:01,619 –> 01:51:03,060
their different hackers and before games
3163
01:51:03,060 –> 01:51:05,880
they would the age groups used to be
3164
01:51:05,880 –> 01:51:07,199
awesome in New Zealand because they
3165
01:51:07,199 –> 01:51:09,000
would do hackers before games and get
3166
01:51:09,000 –> 01:51:10,619
themselves real fizzed up sometimes
3167
01:51:10,619 –> 01:51:12,480
there’d be doubles so they’d started
3168
01:51:12,480 –> 01:51:14,040
they’d start and they’d do a return one
3169
01:51:14,040 –> 01:51:16,320
and yeah and the you know the umpire’s
3170
01:51:16,320 –> 01:51:17,400
like come on boys hurry up we’ve got to
3171
01:51:17,400 –> 01:51:19,199
play but it gets them it gets you fired
3172
01:51:19,199 –> 01:51:22,679
up I had the honor playing at zeissed
3173
01:51:22,679 –> 01:51:24,480
against New Zealand in a prep for the
3174
01:51:24,480 –> 01:51:26,639
world championship I had to honor of
3175
01:51:26,639 –> 01:51:28,440
actually starting a game of our national
3176
01:51:28,440 –> 01:51:30,600
team against New Zealand and I’ve
3177
01:51:30,600 –> 01:51:33,119
pitched for three Innings and I struck
3178
01:51:33,119 –> 01:51:36,300
out one yeah but the Haka in front of us
3179
01:51:36,300 –> 01:51:38,340
right in front of us there was there was
3180
01:51:38,340 –> 01:51:40,580
something yeah there was something and
3181
01:51:40,580 –> 01:51:43,139
uh later on I thought it should be
3182
01:51:43,139 –> 01:51:44,820
illegal
3183
01:51:44,820 –> 01:51:47,820
because they get so hyped up and it was
3184
01:51:47,820 –> 01:51:50,219
so like intimidating they was like oh
3185
01:51:50,219 –> 01:51:52,080
man they’re they’re already 10 runs in
3186
01:51:52,080 –> 01:51:53,719
front you know
3187
01:51:53,719 –> 01:51:56,219
we had to play if you think about it
3188
01:51:56,219 –> 01:51:58,440
like you know a couple couple hundred
3189
01:51:58,440 –> 01:52:00,659
years ago is not that long ago but you
3190
01:52:00,659 –> 01:52:02,280
know when they used to do it it’s like
3191
01:52:02,280 –> 01:52:04,320
you’re basically going and knowing that
3192
01:52:04,320 –> 01:52:06,600
if you fail you die yeah well because
3193
01:52:06,600 –> 01:52:08,219
you’re getting ready to go into battle
3194
01:52:08,219 –> 01:52:11,580
and uh yeah so and when you do it it
3195
01:52:11,580 –> 01:52:13,260
does you actually sort of get into a
3196
01:52:13,260 –> 01:52:15,239
trance and you go to another place yeah
3197
01:52:15,239 –> 01:52:16,920
uh like remember I was telling you
3198
01:52:16,920 –> 01:52:17,940
remember I was telling you before about
3199
01:52:17,940 –> 01:52:19,860
like you know if I was to enter a boxing
3200
01:52:19,860 –> 01:52:20,880
career I don’t know I’d have good
3201
01:52:20,880 –> 01:52:22,619
friends to say no you can’t like if
3202
01:52:22,619 –> 01:52:24,780
there was ever to be a chance you know
3203
01:52:24,780 –> 01:52:26,460
if you do a hacker beforehand you could
3204
01:52:26,460 –> 01:52:27,900
you know for a temporary amount of time
3205
01:52:27,900 –> 01:52:30,119
you’d think you can beat Mike Tyson but
3206
01:52:30,119 –> 01:52:31,260
then once you get punched in the face
3207
01:52:31,260 –> 01:52:33,119
yeah it only works for so long and
3208
01:52:33,119 –> 01:52:34,739
that’s why the frenzy you can get
3209
01:52:34,739 –> 01:52:36,480
yourself up into a frenzy as much as you
3210
01:52:36,480 –> 01:52:37,800
like but at the end of the day you have
3211
01:52:37,800 –> 01:52:39,360
to go and play rugby for 80 minutes you
3212
01:52:39,360 –> 01:52:41,639
have to go get 21 ounce in softball so
3213
01:52:41,639 –> 01:52:43,320
sometimes it can be detrimental because
3214
01:52:43,320 –> 01:52:45,960
you waste not I don’t like what uses the
3215
01:52:45,960 –> 01:52:47,460
word waste but you expend a lot of
3216
01:52:47,460 –> 01:52:50,280
energy into the Haka whereas if a team’s
3217
01:52:50,280 –> 01:52:51,659
looking at you going this doesn’t worry
3218
01:52:51,659 –> 01:52:54,600
me then uh yeah game on then you’ve just
3219
01:52:54,600 –> 01:52:56,580
pretty much spent a lot of energy uh
3220
01:52:56,580 –> 01:52:58,020
into the wrong direction but if you can
3221
01:52:58,020 –> 01:53:00,119
use it for good then oh by all means or
3222
01:53:00,119 –> 01:53:01,320
if it gets into the game for the first
3223
01:53:01,320 –> 01:53:02,880
five minutes in rugby or rugby league
3224
01:53:02,880 –> 01:53:04,560
then boy it means do it but at the end
3225
01:53:04,560 –> 01:53:05,699
of the day you still have to play for 80
3226
01:53:05,699 –> 01:53:07,860
minutes and play with a lot of skill but
3227
01:53:07,860 –> 01:53:10,020
uh in terms of tradition it is a
3228
01:53:10,020 –> 01:53:11,580
beautiful thing it’s a beautiful thing
3229
01:53:11,580 –> 01:53:13,020
to watch and it’s been getting so much
3230
01:53:13,020 –> 01:53:15,119
better over the decades if you look at
3231
01:53:15,119 –> 01:53:16,800
some of the hackers in the 70s and 80s
3232
01:53:16,800 –> 01:53:19,199
some of them were embarrassing but they
3233
01:53:19,199 –> 01:53:21,360
are good now like really good and it is
3234
01:53:21,360 –> 01:53:22,800
it is an honor and you can feel like
3235
01:53:22,800 –> 01:53:24,480
yeah hold on it’s an advantage for them
3236
01:53:24,480 –> 01:53:26,639
to get it but then my argument would be
3237
01:53:26,639 –> 01:53:28,139
hold on to the better team win or do
3238
01:53:28,139 –> 01:53:29,760
they win because of the Haka or you know
3239
01:53:29,760 –> 01:53:31,619
it’s it’s one of those why should you
3240
01:53:31,619 –> 01:53:34,199
say it a better teamwork but you got
3241
01:53:34,199 –> 01:53:36,179
your One strikeout and guess what you
3242
01:53:36,179 –> 01:53:37,619
could probably tell me the whole 10
3243
01:53:37,619 –> 01:53:38,820
minute you know you could turn that into
3244
01:53:38,820 –> 01:53:40,619
a 10 minute story right the one Striker
3245
01:53:40,619 –> 01:53:42,960
that’s because I was starting as a
3246
01:53:42,960 –> 01:53:45,000
pitcher made shortstop and my third
3247
01:53:45,000 –> 01:53:47,760
baseman they made awesome plays yeah
3248
01:53:47,760 –> 01:53:49,560
yeah of course stay on the inside the
3249
01:53:49,560 –> 01:53:51,780
bug had in play and that’s also that’s
3250
01:53:51,780 –> 01:53:52,860
what you’re trying to do right get out
3251
01:53:52,860 –> 01:53:54,659
yeah that’s going to be hard to strike
3252
01:53:54,659 –> 01:53:55,980
out the black socks guys you just got to
3253
01:53:55,980 –> 01:53:57,960
work out all right where’s the safest
3254
01:53:57,960 –> 01:53:59,820
place to pitch yeah that’s it the only
3255
01:53:59,820 –> 01:54:02,940
thing I didn’t want to do is yeah oh
3256
01:54:02,940 –> 01:54:05,360
Griffo didn’t work yeah yeah
3257
01:54:05,360 –> 01:54:07,739
it was awesome man it was a real honor
3258
01:54:07,739 –> 01:54:09,000
and then some something I will never
3259
01:54:09,000 –> 01:54:11,400
forget that something uh amazing well
3260
01:54:11,400 –> 01:54:13,560
that’s something I’ve never done so cool
3261
01:54:13,560 –> 01:54:16,860
okay let’s do a short stop because uh we
3262
01:54:16,860 –> 01:54:19,380
have a short stop because it’s a word
3263
01:54:19,380 –> 01:54:21,900
sure stuff thing it’s nice everybody
3264
01:54:21,900 –> 01:54:23,159
left
3265
01:54:23,159 –> 01:54:25,820
um so we have also a home plate here
3266
01:54:25,820 –> 01:54:28,679
that’s that’s really great
3267
01:54:28,679 –> 01:54:32,340
um yeah and we have also like a word
3268
01:54:32,340 –> 01:54:34,100
funny word fun
3269
01:54:34,100 –> 01:54:37,440
and we call it like the touch plot the
3270
01:54:37,440 –> 01:54:40,739
home plate but then that uh that doesn’t
3271
01:54:40,739 –> 01:54:43,380
work in English it doesn’t work very
3272
01:54:43,380 –> 01:54:45,119
good in English sorry man yeah I’m sorry
3273
01:54:45,119 –> 01:54:47,639
but but as well but we want to know
3274
01:54:47,639 –> 01:54:50,820
what’s your favorite song actually your
3275
01:54:50,820 –> 01:54:53,520
soundtrack my favorite song yeah
3276
01:54:53,520 –> 01:54:56,400
it doesn’t have to be related to
3277
01:54:56,400 –> 01:54:59,940
coaching or my favorite song is Mike and
3278
01:54:59,940 –> 01:55:01,860
the mechanics the living is
3279
01:55:01,860 –> 01:55:05,040
all right that’s a soppy slow song from
3280
01:55:05,040 –> 01:55:07,679
the 80s I’ve just always liked it you’re
3281
01:55:07,679 –> 01:55:10,980
80s guy I am an 80s 90s guy here okay I
3282
01:55:10,980 –> 01:55:14,520
like my 80s music cool man okay same
3283
01:55:14,520 –> 01:55:18,659
here okay that’s nice yeah do we have uh
3284
01:55:18,659 –> 01:55:21,420
something like that you want to let them
3285
01:55:21,420 –> 01:55:24,360
drop do you have some last things that
3286
01:55:24,360 –> 01:55:27,239
you have to um say to other coaches or
3287
01:55:27,239 –> 01:55:29,880
uh parents uh that they have to know
3288
01:55:29,880 –> 01:55:33,659
that we didn’t ask you uh stick with it
3289
01:55:33,659 –> 01:55:36,600
uh it’s just there’s going to be some
3290
01:55:36,600 –> 01:55:37,860
days where you feel like you’re getting
3291
01:55:37,860 –> 01:55:39,179
nowhere
3292
01:55:39,179 –> 01:55:41,820
um but then after a while if you stick
3293
01:55:41,820 –> 01:55:44,699
with it and gain knowledge from as many
3294
01:55:44,699 –> 01:55:47,100
people as you can the way that I uh
3295
01:55:47,100 –> 01:55:48,780
explain coaching
3296
01:55:48,780 –> 01:55:51,000
is it’s either called The Funnel effect
3297
01:55:51,000 –> 01:55:54,060
or The Hourglass effect so the question
3298
01:55:54,060 –> 01:55:56,820
is is how big is your funnel or how big
3299
01:55:56,820 –> 01:55:58,500
is your hourglass and what I mean by
3300
01:55:58,500 –> 01:56:01,260
that is the shape of an hourglass like
3301
01:56:01,260 –> 01:56:03,179
some people could have a thin one now I
3302
01:56:03,179 –> 01:56:04,980
want a thin hourglass means that you’ve
3303
01:56:04,980 –> 01:56:07,679
had hardly any people to learn from all
3304
01:56:07,679 –> 01:56:09,480
right but if you’re lucky enough to have
3305
01:56:09,480 –> 01:56:11,639
a large hourglass because you’ve learned
3306
01:56:11,639 –> 01:56:13,380
all that information and all that sand
3307
01:56:13,380 –> 01:56:15,659
is all your knowledge all right the
3308
01:56:15,659 –> 01:56:17,400
thing that annoys me is the people that
3309
01:56:17,400 –> 01:56:19,860
have a funnel or an hourglass that goes
3310
01:56:19,860 –> 01:56:23,880
white at the top and then is almost thin
3311
01:56:23,880 –> 01:56:26,040
at the bottom that is basically a player
3312
01:56:26,040 –> 01:56:28,080
that has been playing for 20 years and
3313
01:56:28,080 –> 01:56:30,000
then quits the game and does nothing and
3314
01:56:30,000 –> 01:56:31,800
doesn’t share that information so they
3315
01:56:31,800 –> 01:56:33,360
funnel is that so The Hourglass that I
3316
01:56:33,360 –> 01:56:35,580
want to see is you obviously want as
3317
01:56:35,580 –> 01:56:37,980
wide as possible to come in and then you
3318
01:56:37,980 –> 01:56:39,900
want it as wide as possible to go out
3319
01:56:39,900 –> 01:56:42,000
you want them teaching as many people as
3320
01:56:42,000 –> 01:56:44,580
possible so the problem the other
3321
01:56:44,580 –> 01:56:46,500
problem with uh what I’m talking about
3322
01:56:46,500 –> 01:56:48,060
there is sometimes we have coaches that
3323
01:56:48,060 –> 01:56:50,820
have a thin funnel or a thin hourglass
3324
01:56:50,820 –> 01:56:53,280
but then they go and Coach everyone yeah
3325
01:56:53,280 –> 01:56:55,500
and they’re coaching the wrong stuff all
3326
01:56:55,500 –> 01:56:57,420
right so what I’m trying to say is if
3327
01:56:57,420 –> 01:56:58,800
you’re a coach try and make your
3328
01:56:58,800 –> 01:57:01,199
hourglass or your funnel as wide as
3329
01:57:01,199 –> 01:57:03,480
possible and if it’s thin to be begin
3330
01:57:03,480 –> 01:57:05,340
with don’t worry about it that’s why I
3331
01:57:05,340 –> 01:57:08,100
say stick with it and increase your
3332
01:57:08,100 –> 01:57:10,560
hourglass or your funnel and fill that
3333
01:57:10,560 –> 01:57:12,420
up with as much information and you know
3334
01:57:12,420 –> 01:57:14,099
what if that only goes to one team then
3335
01:57:14,099 –> 01:57:15,960
so be it if it’s still at the bottom but
3336
01:57:15,960 –> 01:57:17,639
just make sure you try and fill up the
3337
01:57:17,639 –> 01:57:19,860
top part first and if you are starting
3338
01:57:19,860 –> 01:57:22,219
early like if you’re asking the parents
3339
01:57:22,219 –> 01:57:24,360
uh you know that have only done it for
3340
01:57:24,360 –> 01:57:26,340
their first year yeah then find ways to
3341
01:57:26,340 –> 01:57:27,480
make sure they can fill up that
3342
01:57:27,480 –> 01:57:29,460
hourglass as much as possible there’s
3343
01:57:29,460 –> 01:57:31,800
various ways to do that obviously to try
3344
01:57:31,800 –> 01:57:33,900
and gain experience as the hardest of a
3345
01:57:33,900 –> 01:57:35,460
possible of all but you’ve got to find
3346
01:57:35,460 –> 01:57:37,020
ways to fill up that hourglass so you
3347
01:57:37,020 –> 01:57:38,880
can sit there and work out what the
3348
01:57:38,880 –> 01:57:40,739
bottom half of your hourglass looks like
3349
01:57:40,739 –> 01:57:43,139
does that make sense yeah yeah yeah it’s
3350
01:57:43,139 –> 01:57:44,699
the easiest way to try and explain it up
3351
01:57:44,699 –> 01:57:46,199
with information yeah you can get it
3352
01:57:46,199 –> 01:57:48,179
online you can do some trainings you can
3353
01:57:48,179 –> 01:57:51,060
talk to your technical comedy of your
3354
01:57:51,060 –> 01:57:53,280
Club if there’s ways to to get you
3355
01:57:53,280 –> 01:57:56,880
enrich your experiences
3356
01:57:56,880 –> 01:57:59,400
um there are many ways to yeah and the
3357
01:57:59,400 –> 01:58:02,360
other key word I’d say is
3358
01:58:02,659 –> 01:58:05,040
also is to listen to the podcast of
3359
01:58:05,040 –> 01:58:07,500
course well of course yeah actually a
3360
01:58:07,500 –> 01:58:09,179
lot of information this is one of the
3361
01:58:09,179 –> 01:58:10,500
reasons why you created this right to
3362
01:58:10,500 –> 01:58:13,500
help and and this will be Pat so this is
3363
01:58:13,500 –> 01:58:16,199
one of many tools that can be helped
3364
01:58:16,199 –> 01:58:18,420
with their sand in their hourglass so
3365
01:58:18,420 –> 01:58:20,580
listening to this is you know it widens
3366
01:58:20,580 –> 01:58:22,260
it that much maybe the podcast is that
3367
01:58:22,260 –> 01:58:23,699
good that it opens it up this much I
3368
01:58:23,699 –> 01:58:26,699
have no idea but everybody helps and you
3369
01:58:26,699 –> 01:58:28,080
know what you can sit there and listen
3370
01:58:28,080 –> 01:58:30,780
to this on the car ride into work from
3371
01:58:30,780 –> 01:58:33,119
work it doesn’t well you can find a way
3372
01:58:33,119 –> 01:58:34,619
where it doesn’t take up any extra time
3373
01:58:34,619 –> 01:58:36,179
instead of listening to music on the way
3374
01:58:36,179 –> 01:58:38,940
and hey push list of the podcasts get a
3375
01:58:38,940 –> 01:58:40,800
few tips here and there and cool maybe
3376
01:58:40,800 –> 01:58:42,119
that’s what you get from Sandra Sandra
3377
01:58:42,119 –> 01:58:44,280
can give you the uh skill uh skills and
3378
01:58:44,280 –> 01:58:46,080
drills to do at trading sessions
3379
01:58:46,080 –> 01:58:48,960
awesome yeah that’s nice wait okay
3380
01:58:48,960 –> 01:58:51,540
thanks so uh how can people stay in
3381
01:58:51,540 –> 01:58:53,820
touch with you if they have uh questions
3382
01:58:53,820 –> 01:58:55,739
or they want more information Facebook
3383
01:58:55,739 –> 01:58:57,900
Instagram yeah I’m not one of those ones
3384
01:58:57,900 –> 01:59:00,300
has private accounts I always believe in
3385
01:59:00,300 –> 01:59:02,159
I don’t have two accounts yeah you’re a
3386
01:59:02,159 –> 01:59:04,199
people guy yeah except one person and it
3387
01:59:04,199 –> 01:59:05,580
is who I am like I said it’s a weakness
3388
01:59:05,580 –> 01:59:06,780
of mine because if you do scroll through
3389
01:59:06,780 –> 01:59:08,280
you’ll find some of my younger days in
3390
01:59:08,280 –> 01:59:09,840
there but one of my arguments is like
3391
01:59:09,840 –> 01:59:11,219
that’s who I was at that point in life
3392
01:59:11,219 –> 01:59:13,380
so why why would I bother hiding it if
3393
01:59:13,380 –> 01:59:14,760
you want to hold it against me then you
3394
01:59:14,760 –> 01:59:15,960
can you’re more than welcome to but
3395
01:59:15,960 –> 01:59:17,099
that’s what I did when I was in my early
3396
01:59:17,099 –> 01:59:18,900
20s or late 20s or whatever Facebook
3397
01:59:18,900 –> 01:59:21,060
yeah it’s just it’s who you are yeah
3398
01:59:21,060 –> 01:59:22,860
cool you shouldn’t be able to shy away
3399
01:59:22,860 –> 01:59:25,619
from it okay uh I’ve I’ve learned one
3400
01:59:25,619 –> 01:59:27,540
more thing from you this year and that
3401
01:59:27,540 –> 01:59:30,179
that’s one I want to ask you to explain
3402
01:59:30,179 –> 01:59:33,119
our listeners as well so can you tell a
3403
01:59:33,119 –> 01:59:35,820
little bit about us about the red hat
3404
01:59:35,820 –> 01:59:40,320
and the blue hat okay so that’s from uh
3405
01:59:40,320 –> 01:59:41,940
well it’s from reading the All Blacks
3406
01:59:41,940 –> 01:59:46,139
book uh and we talk about being in the
3407
01:59:46,139 –> 01:59:48,659
redhead and blue head State uh when well
3408
01:59:48,659 –> 01:59:51,659
in life but especially in sport and the
3409
01:59:51,659 –> 01:59:54,599
way I can relate to it in softball is we
3410
01:59:54,599 –> 01:59:56,099
talk about it as a pressure pressure
3411
01:59:56,099 –> 01:59:57,840
moments and I always talk about how
3412
01:59:57,840 –> 01:59:59,880
there’s two games within the game and I
3413
01:59:59,880 –> 02:00:01,260
remember coaching a team one year and
3414
02:00:01,260 –> 02:00:03,000
they says oh we don’t really like it we
3415
02:00:03,000 –> 02:00:04,739
just like playing for fun we don’t
3416
02:00:04,739 –> 02:00:06,060
really like playing with pressure and I
3417
02:00:06,060 –> 02:00:07,320
just looked at him and thinking oh my
3418
02:00:07,320 –> 02:00:08,940
God you’ve never won anything have you
3419
02:00:08,940 –> 02:00:10,800
because if you know if you when you’re
3420
02:00:10,800 –> 02:00:14,340
winning a lot of big tournaments along
3421
02:00:14,340 –> 02:00:16,619
with it comes pressure and the biggest
3422
02:00:16,619 –> 02:00:18,060
pressure comes between the pitcher and
3423
02:00:18,060 –> 02:00:20,400
catcher first right so what happens when
3424
02:00:20,400 –> 02:00:22,699
pressure builds in the body
3425
02:00:22,699 –> 02:00:25,199
redhead you start getting into a redhead
3426
02:00:25,199 –> 02:00:28,380
State uh and then obviously the more
3427
02:00:28,380 –> 02:00:30,420
that you can stay in a blue calm
3428
02:00:30,420 –> 02:00:31,860
demeanor
3429
02:00:31,860 –> 02:00:34,800
uh you’re able to function better and
3430
02:00:34,800 –> 02:00:36,659
that’s one of the things that we talk
3431
02:00:36,659 –> 02:00:38,760
about the Olympia way and that’s a big
3432
02:00:38,760 –> 02:00:42,780
part of it is us being able to perform
3433
02:00:42,780 –> 02:00:46,080
in a blue head state of mind uh as long
3434
02:00:46,080 –> 02:00:47,760
as possible and actually
3435
02:00:47,760 –> 02:00:50,159
always like even when we know the
3436
02:00:50,159 –> 02:00:52,199
pressure’s on it’s like absorb it
3437
02:00:52,199 –> 02:00:54,360
acknowledge it work out what the next
3438
02:00:54,360 –> 02:00:56,699
players and move on uh it’s something
3439
02:00:56,699 –> 02:00:58,500
that I try and do with my coaching as
3440
02:00:58,500 –> 02:01:00,119
well not just with the playing yeah you
3441
02:01:00,119 –> 02:01:01,560
do it it’s yourself as well because you
3442
02:01:01,560 –> 02:01:03,659
didn’t uh highlighted the new ven up
3443
02:01:03,659 –> 02:01:06,599
guys as well that you you just said like
3444
02:01:06,599 –> 02:01:09,360
well um I’m not I’m not understanding
3445
02:01:09,360 –> 02:01:10,920
anything about this because they’re
3446
02:01:10,920 –> 02:01:13,679
talking not my language yeah
3447
02:01:13,679 –> 02:01:15,599
oh yes that’s right I forgot that moment
3448
02:01:15,599 –> 02:01:17,219
they’re like Stan you got to go in and
3449
02:01:17,219 –> 02:01:18,719
say something to this because my players
3450
02:01:18,719 –> 02:01:20,639
were getting upset at me and I’m like
3451
02:01:20,639 –> 02:01:22,380
going yeah and I’m like going why am I
3452
02:01:22,380 –> 02:01:23,580
upset I have no idea what they’re
3453
02:01:23,580 –> 02:01:25,020
talking they’re talking papier-minto
3454
02:01:25,020 –> 02:01:27,420
you’re arguing over some small trivial
3455
02:01:27,420 –> 02:01:29,699
stuff that’s like you know and they
3456
02:01:29,699 –> 02:01:31,380
would argue about things when I’m like
3457
02:01:31,380 –> 02:01:34,260
going guys they’ve scored 14 runs you
3458
02:01:34,260 –> 02:01:36,119
know when they’ve scored 14 runs it’s
3459
02:01:36,119 –> 02:01:37,739
like there’s nothing really to argue
3460
02:01:37,739 –> 02:01:39,420
about it’s the same as when we complain
3461
02:01:39,420 –> 02:01:41,639
about umpires strike zones but then
3462
02:01:41,639 –> 02:01:43,260
you’ve made five errors during the game
3463
02:01:43,260 –> 02:01:44,340
and you’re worried about a ball that
3464
02:01:44,340 –> 02:01:45,540
didn’t get caught on the outside of the
3465
02:01:45,540 –> 02:01:47,400
part of the plate it’s like you need to
3466
02:01:47,400 –> 02:01:48,840
sort out your own backyard before you
3467
02:01:48,840 –> 02:01:50,280
start complaining about other people’s
3468
02:01:50,280 –> 02:01:53,460
so yeah that happens uh again blue head
3469
02:01:53,460 –> 02:01:56,219
redhead State uh again I think to myself
3470
02:01:56,219 –> 02:01:58,020
what’s what getting emotional or caught
3471
02:01:58,020 –> 02:01:59,400
up in those moments that’s a good one
3472
02:01:59,400 –> 02:02:00,840
yeah but you got to think about the next
3473
02:02:00,840 –> 02:02:02,580
place it’s kind of like pick your
3474
02:02:02,580 –> 02:02:03,719
battles
3475
02:02:03,719 –> 02:02:06,599
yeah which one are you gonna get full
3476
02:02:06,599 –> 02:02:08,219
sense and which one are you going to
3477
02:02:08,219 –> 02:02:10,679
know the ebook yeah but set well sorry
3478
02:02:10,679 –> 02:02:12,119
for the men’s Fridays or for the women’s
3479
02:02:12,119 –> 02:02:14,400
Saturdays it’s just a reflection of the
3480
02:02:14,400 –> 02:02:15,540
work that you do on Tuesday Thursday
3481
02:02:15,540 –> 02:02:17,760
night or Monday evening yeah so the work
3482
02:02:17,760 –> 02:02:19,980
gets done throughout the week the Friday
3483
02:02:19,980 –> 02:02:22,679
Saturday is your chance to express what
3484
02:02:22,679 –> 02:02:23,760
you know about the game what you’ve
3485
02:02:23,760 –> 02:02:25,500
learned about the game what our game
3486
02:02:25,500 –> 02:02:28,260
plan is uh but we’re we’re very clear
3487
02:02:28,260 –> 02:02:31,080
with uh the women’s team about what our
3488
02:02:31,080 –> 02:02:32,760
plans are with the men’s I was trying to
3489
02:02:32,760 –> 02:02:34,320
fill it out because I was learning the
3490
02:02:34,320 –> 02:02:36,480
guys as we were going through the season
3491
02:02:36,480 –> 02:02:39,960
I was like oh okay yeah and um we had
3492
02:02:39,960 –> 02:02:41,880
some speed in the men’s team too like uh
3493
02:02:41,880 –> 02:02:44,460
there’s some quick guys so yeah all I
3494
02:02:44,460 –> 02:02:45,780
can all right who’s the guys that we
3495
02:02:45,780 –> 02:02:47,460
just put ball and play and let’s get
3496
02:02:47,460 –> 02:02:49,380
them racing let’s get them stealing uh
3497
02:02:49,380 –> 02:02:51,840
and because you can create pressure by
3498
02:02:51,840 –> 02:02:53,940
uh with your base running too so you
3499
02:02:53,940 –> 02:02:56,099
can’t really create pressure I call it
3500
02:02:56,099 –> 02:02:59,040
rst so any of you uh coaches young
3501
02:02:59,040 –> 02:03:01,260
coaches out there uh the term I use for
3502
02:03:01,260 –> 02:03:03,659
base running is are you an r s or T it’s
3503
02:03:03,659 –> 02:03:04,860
easy to remember because the letters go
3504
02:03:04,860 –> 02:03:07,080
one after the other yeah the r stands
3505
02:03:07,080 –> 02:03:09,000
for are you a rabbit
3506
02:03:09,000 –> 02:03:10,860
all right because you know there’s more
3507
02:03:10,860 –> 02:03:12,420
allowances for the kids that are rabbits
3508
02:03:12,420 –> 02:03:14,880
uh the S stands for just standard all
3509
02:03:14,880 –> 02:03:16,320
right you’re a standard Runner are you
3510
02:03:16,320 –> 02:03:18,480
standard player and the t uh stands for
3511
02:03:18,480 –> 02:03:21,119
turtle yeah so when we just talk about
3512
02:03:21,119 –> 02:03:22,440
it and the players are gonna be honest
3513
02:03:22,440 –> 02:03:23,520
with themselves they’re like they’re
3514
02:03:23,520 –> 02:03:25,139
like ah I’m a turtle and I’m like well
3515
02:03:25,139 –> 02:03:26,760
that’s okay if you’re a turtle then you
3516
02:03:26,760 –> 02:03:28,800
need to learn how to hit home runs or
3517
02:03:28,800 –> 02:03:30,540
you need to be very very smart on the
3518
02:03:30,540 –> 02:03:32,520
bass path because Marielle of logos was
3519
02:03:32,520 –> 02:03:34,679
she I consider a standard once she gets
3520
02:03:34,679 –> 02:03:37,139
going she’s all right but uh she knows
3521
02:03:37,139 –> 02:03:39,119
when a Ball’s Landing she can tell when
3522
02:03:39,119 –> 02:03:41,040
the balls hit off the bat
3523
02:03:41,040 –> 02:03:42,060
um because there’s different variations
3524
02:03:42,060 –> 02:03:43,739
of it right if you’re a smart base
3525
02:03:43,739 –> 02:03:45,480
runner but you’re a turtle it’s okay but
3526
02:03:45,480 –> 02:03:46,980
if you’re a dumb bass Runner and a
3527
02:03:46,980 –> 02:03:48,840
turtle they’re coach Killers those ones
3528
02:03:48,840 –> 02:03:51,360
but you’ll find that a lot of rabbits
3529
02:03:51,360 –> 02:03:52,980
though are not the smartest base runners
3530
02:03:52,980 –> 02:03:54,900
because in their head they think they
3531
02:03:54,900 –> 02:03:56,219
can run the entire year they just think
3532
02:03:56,219 –> 02:03:57,719
they can run everything but they don’t
3533
02:03:57,719 –> 02:03:58,800
know where the ball is going to land or
3534
02:03:58,800 –> 02:04:00,000
they just think they can get to third
3535
02:04:00,000 –> 02:04:02,159
when they can’t so but when you get a
3536
02:04:02,159 –> 02:04:04,679
rabbit with brains their coaches dreams
3537
02:04:04,679 –> 02:04:06,960
but uh that’s the way that I train uh
3538
02:04:06,960 –> 02:04:09,719
the Olympia girls and guys up and the
3539
02:04:09,719 –> 02:04:10,800
kids I don’t change it that’s something
3540
02:04:10,800 –> 02:04:12,179
I do the same with the seniors and I do
3541
02:04:12,179 –> 02:04:13,980
with the kids you know are you a rabbit
3542
02:04:13,980 –> 02:04:15,599
or a turtle I’m gonna take that whip
3543
02:04:15,599 –> 02:04:18,360
yeah and the kids but the thing is they
3544
02:04:18,360 –> 02:04:20,520
joke about it you know and like you know
3545
02:04:20,520 –> 02:04:22,500
they’re on second base and you know
3546
02:04:22,500 –> 02:04:23,699
they’ll be one of the players out there
3547
02:04:23,699 –> 02:04:25,260
and I’m looking scouring to say I’m
3548
02:04:25,260 –> 02:04:26,040
going to see in the home they’re just
3549
02:04:26,040 –> 02:04:28,260
like hey remember I’m a turtle I just
3550
02:04:28,260 –> 02:04:30,540
remember yeah yeah they’ll fully put
3551
02:04:30,540 –> 02:04:31,860
themselves like I think Michelle’s one
3552
02:04:31,860 –> 02:04:33,540
of them uh the catcher you know
3553
02:04:33,540 –> 02:04:35,040
sometimes she’ll like you know she does
3554
02:04:35,040 –> 02:04:36,420
a good base writing moment she’s like
3555
02:04:36,420 –> 02:04:39,739
yeah yeah I’m a rabbit now
3556
02:04:39,980 –> 02:04:42,239
but they end up taking the Mickey out of
3557
02:04:42,239 –> 02:04:43,320
themselves and you can have fun with
3558
02:04:43,320 –> 02:04:44,520
them rather than trying to hide from the
3559
02:04:44,520 –> 02:04:46,560
fact okay no no you know I want to be a
3560
02:04:46,560 –> 02:04:47,760
rabbit I know I’m a turtle but I really
3561
02:04:47,760 –> 02:04:49,619
want to be a rabbit it’s like no no it’s
3562
02:04:49,619 –> 02:04:51,060
fine there’s nothing wrong with being a
3563
02:04:51,060 –> 02:04:51,900
turtle
3564
02:04:51,900 –> 02:04:54,179
laughs usually they win the race right
3565
02:04:54,179 –> 02:04:56,659
yeah
3566
02:04:56,659 –> 02:04:59,219
all right yeah so it is I’ll take that
3567
02:04:59,219 –> 02:05:01,920
in all right well thank you a lot we’re
3568
02:05:01,920 –> 02:05:04,560
uh at the end yeah of this podcast yeah
3569
02:05:04,560 –> 02:05:06,900
thanks of enlightening us with your life
3570
02:05:06,900 –> 02:05:10,020
story yeah awesome tips
3571
02:05:10,020 –> 02:05:12,659
I I think I think I have like four or
3572
02:05:12,659 –> 02:05:15,119
five pointers for next season already
3573
02:05:15,119 –> 02:05:17,099
and the main thing is that
3574
02:05:17,099 –> 02:05:18,540
in a way
3575
02:05:18,540 –> 02:05:20,060
um feel that I’m on the right track
3576
02:05:20,060 –> 02:05:23,460
you’ve gave me so much more info about
3577
02:05:23,460 –> 02:05:26,520
training and about non for verbal
3578
02:05:26,520 –> 02:05:29,400
communicating with the kids and I think
3579
02:05:29,400 –> 02:05:31,260
that’s the way it should be and it
3580
02:05:31,260 –> 02:05:33,360
should be fun for everyone to do a smile
3581
02:05:33,360 –> 02:05:35,580
cures most things yeah if you walk it in
3582
02:05:35,580 –> 02:05:36,719
you’re smiling when you’re leaving
3583
02:05:36,719 –> 02:05:39,360
you’re smiling the trick is though it’s
3584
02:05:39,360 –> 02:05:40,860
got to be genuine and the only way it
3585
02:05:40,860 –> 02:05:42,659
can be genuine is if you’re enjoying
3586
02:05:42,659 –> 02:05:45,239
your life you’ve got to be enjoying your
3587
02:05:45,239 –> 02:05:46,800
life to be smiling that’s why I’m
3588
02:05:46,800 –> 02:05:48,599
smiling and actually people noticed it
3589
02:05:48,599 –> 02:05:50,159
and look Vander Hoover noticed it she’s
3590
02:05:50,159 –> 02:05:51,960
like Stan you’re not smiling and it was
3591
02:05:51,960 –> 02:05:53,400
one of those periods where I was just so
3592
02:05:53,400 –> 02:05:55,139
tired yeah and then I looked at look and
3593
02:05:55,139 –> 02:05:56,580
I’m like you know what you’re right and
3594
02:05:56,580 –> 02:05:57,960
because she knows me well she’s seen me
3595
02:05:57,960 –> 02:05:59,520
here the entire six years and I just
3596
02:05:59,520 –> 02:06:02,040
smiled and I went wow this smile is fake
3597
02:06:02,040 –> 02:06:04,800
so yeah make sure you’re smiling but
3598
02:06:04,800 –> 02:06:06,000
find out a way that your life’s so
3599
02:06:06,000 –> 02:06:07,380
enjoyable that they’re genuine Smiles
3600
02:06:07,380 –> 02:06:08,760
because that’ll that’ll reverberate
3601
02:06:08,760 –> 02:06:11,040
it’ll reverberate into the kids into the
3602
02:06:11,040 –> 02:06:13,320
parents and uh it’ll be good for
3603
02:06:13,320 –> 02:06:16,440
everyone cool cool nice takeaway thanks
3604
02:06:16,440 –> 02:06:18,360
brother yeah a lot
3605
02:06:18,360 –> 02:06:21,719
right that’s a wrap yeah this is a great
3606
02:06:21,719 –> 02:06:24,179
interview I enjoyed every minute
3607
02:06:24,179 –> 02:06:26,670
everything ah cheers
3608
02:06:26,670 –> 02:06:28,820
[Music]
3609
02:06:28,820 –> 02:06:32,360
especially on the time
3610
02:06:32,580 –> 02:06:34,679
because I can really relate to the fake
3611
02:06:34,679 –> 02:06:39,080
smile yeah it’s got to be genuine man
3612
02:06:46,800 –> 02:06:49,380
let’s play ball
3613
02:06:49,380 –> 02:06:51,560
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